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#1260079 16-Mar-2015 10:47

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Jaxson: Must say this just isn't working, on multiple levels.

Some fundamentals really need addressing, a real soul search if you will. Some terms just need attention.

Racing = covering a distance as fast as you can. With the limited fuel, we're seeing large sections dedicated to coasting around.

Slipstream = used to be this cool maneuverer you saw, with the lead car smashing a hole in the air and the trailing cars tucking in. Now it's 'dirty air', 'can't live there for long without overheating' etc

Engine Development Freeze / Tokens = Keeps the winning team at the top. Good for them, good reward for their technical developments, but punishes all the other teams for 3 years.

eco does not equal race. Save money on the teams transport to the track for instance, but putting eco into race just doesn't sit right.

Noise/spirit etc. V12's had a certain sound about them. Today seemed better than last year, but still along the lines of a low frequency growling lawn mower.

Don't know about others, but from comments I've read on the likes of the James Allen website, there are a lot of dedicated fans really questioning why they are staying now.
When the warm up races sound better and have more exciting action, you know you've got some work to do...

Good points. And....

Seeing the World Drivers Championship down to two people. The the comments how hard the race was, blah, blah.
When will racing to tught and close? Soin, when all the teams get a handlie on the cars and rules. Then they will change the rules and get new engines...
Boring? I knwo boring, the Schumacher days were boring and processional. Within the current artifically managed F1 circus with 20,000 rules, there are and will be some good racing, but that will probbaly be 5 or 6 cars dicing every lap, not 24, or 14, or 8
Its not Hamiltons fault but how can anyone compare his 3 titles, when two of them were 2 horse races?
i thought Hamilton has 2

I put 3 intentionally. This year its between him and Rosberg, Hamilton is favoured, the green will run his way, the strategy with the pits and tyre use will automagically see Rosberg 20 seconds behind, when pre pit it was 3, seen all that last year. So he will win this year, to all sorts of acclaim for beating "23" other drivers......

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#1260082 16-Mar-2015 10:49

not so easy mate.

things that could happen ONCE and easily ruin his year
- break a leg badly for example.
- run under a tractor.
- go to jail
- etc ...
things like that ... but yes when his points are unassailable, that's when he's the champion.

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#1260204 16-Mar-2015 13:00

I agree that Mercedes will be the dominant team again this season, followed by a Ferrari/Williams battle (and maybe RBR if they sort their issues out). Due to a several teams changing to Mercedes engines I think the mid order could see some good racing between Force India, Lotus, Sauber, Toro Rosso leaving McLaren and Manor to fight for last place.

I've really enjoyed the Formula E racing, because the aero is standardized there isnt much dirty air behind (as some eluded to earlier) which creates more passing opportunities. Miami (the race over the weekend) was the first without a safety car which meant power conservation played a bigger part in strategy.

Also anyone signed up for F1 Access? $34 subscription this season instead of ~$15 for the app last year. I brought a 1 month subscription to check it out (through the app) but I cant login to the website as buying it through the app didn't give me a user\pass and if I signup on the website it wants to charge me for another subscription.

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#1260218 16-Mar-2015 13:22

Reality is this would likely be a good season if the top two cars weren't in it.

This is not a new thing though, as said earlier the Schumacher dominant years had the same end result of driving fans and viewers away.

To be world champion in todays environment you just need to beat one other car.

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#1260219 16-Mar-2015 13:23

it would be cool to pay a set fee and stream cockpit cam on any car live on my any device during any session! and then there's VR!

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#1260227 16-Mar-2015 13:26

joker97: it would be cool to pay a set fee and stream cockpit cam on any car live on my any device during any session! and then there's VR!

Oh yeah. Having said that the Sky coverage was great, lenghty before the race and afterwarsd, 5 hours plus. And the cockpit cam, and pit. I dont watch those tho

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#1260261 16-Mar-2015 13:53

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joker97: it would be cool to pay a set fee and stream cockpit cam on any car live on my any device during any session! and then there's VR!

Oh yeah. Having said that the Sky coverage was great, lenghty before the race and afterwarsd, 5 hours plus. And the cockpit cam, and pit. I dont watch those tho

Pretty sure this length of coverage is what the UK (and probably elsewhere) have always had. I remember reading that there was some kinda partnership between Sky F1, Sky Deutchland and Sky Italia, so maybe that's why?
Or perhaps Sky NZ ponied up for the full coverage package...

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#1260282 16-Mar-2015 14:02

Amosnz:
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joker97: it would be cool to pay a set fee and stream cockpit cam on any car live on my any device during any session! and then there's VR!

Oh yeah. Having said that the Sky coverage was great, lenghty before the race and afterwarsd, 5 hours plus. And the cockpit cam, and pit. I dont watch those tho

Pretty sure this length of coverage is what the UK (and probably elsewhere) have always had. I remember reading that there was some kinda partnership between Sky F1, Sky Deutchland and Sky Italia, so maybe that's why?
Or perhaps Sky NZ ponied up for the full coverage package...

There were a few ads for UK viewers, so they are using the UK feed but thats all good. Its got a pretty good commentator lineup, and yes, I get a tick tied of Crofty as well

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#1260737 17-Mar-2015 08:09

hot off the press. Red Bull wants to quit F1 unless they regulate engine power output :D
cry babies! [coz renault engines are going "backwards"]

lots of news on sky uk f1

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#1260746 17-Mar-2015 08:28

joker97: hot off the press. Red Bull wants to quit F1 unless they regulate engine power output :D
cry babies! [coz renault engines are going "backwards"]

lots of news on sky uk f1

Why not just move to a Merc engine ??

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#1260809 17-Mar-2015 09:56

Just read the RBR threatens to quit article. There are arguments for both. Its common to equalise, V8 Supercars did that years ago by reducing one of them so that one car type isn't winning every race, I find that ludicrous. Same with reducing Mercedes dominance. But the sport will suffer. So, what do we do? I suggest, to pick one engine manufacturer, and use that as standard. Every F1 car has a Mercedes, or Ferrari or Honda or Renault engine. The raw engine has nothing to do with the team, aside from Ferrari. There are SO many other facets that a team can use, the software mapping, the aero, the mechanical grip, the CofG, many many things. And scrape the fuel limit. Take RBR winning 4 in a row, they didn't have the fastest car, the most HP car, the fastest car in the speed traps, they had none of those, they had a top package. Mercedes may not even have the most HP, maybe they do, but the other Mercedes powered cars aren't dominating, so the Mercedes team has a great package. If all cars had the same engine, then the best combo of chassis and team technology and the driver will do well.

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#1260812 17-Mar-2015 10:07

people threaten to quit all the time. usually it's Ferrari. but Ferrari has always needed a platform to sell their cars to people with bottomless bank accounts.

Red Bull however, is a billionairre's hobby. If he gets bored of it, he has nothing to lose if he quits.

But that will open the door for another big name to buy it over and rebrand ...

so all in all, the sport will carry on. as long as Bernie makes them their millions

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#1261215 17-Mar-2015 17:58

I think most of the main sports level their competitors to some degree. I know in SBK they put restrictors on the bikes and added weight when they start winning consistently due to a technical advantage.

The idea behind F1 are there are two championships, mechanical (constructors) and drivers. It is very hard for a driver to compete for a championship when the oppositions vehicle has a technical advantage gained by budget led innovation. If however, it is a technical innovation that anyone could implement, then they should be able to keep it.

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#1302682 12-May-2015 12:39

Good to see Rosberg win. They both race well when in front, for obvious reasons, but I feel Rosberg runs in the field better than Hamilton. I dont dislike Hamiltion but he's not the be all and end all driver many think he is, he is very good, thats it. Not a legend or even close. Bottas is veruy good, maybe better. ferrari had a weird race, held Mercedes friom running away, then they ran away. 40 seconds behind. They say Catalunya is a one off track. I feel Rosberg has one change and that's to go for it rather than race solid and fail. Intersting to see if there is much momentum shift, thats a double edged sword. Rosberg on a run, Hamillton trying too hard and lslower. Roll on Monaco, and the following rade, that will tell all.

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#1318446 6-Jun-2015 21:12

this is hilarious http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/video/2015/6/Moving_on_from_Monaco_for_Mercedes.html

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