Driving with the flow of traffic?

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#3187749 28-Jan-2024 17:16

larknz:

In Australia you will get a ticket if you sit in the right lane unnecessarily. A pity the same doesn't happen here.

they do it now and then, put i think its more that someone is intentionally holding up traffic. we get it a bit on passing lanes here where idiots will speed up or change lanes in an effort to stop people overtaking. dashcams are great.

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#3187771 28-Jan-2024 17:42

tweake:

larknz:

In Australia you will get a ticket if you sit in the right lane unnecessarily. A pity the same doesn't happen here.

they do it now and then, put i think its more that someone is intentionally holding up traffic. we get it a bit on passing lanes here where idiots will speed up or change lanes in an effort to stop people overtaking. dashcams are great.

It also probably depends on which state you are in.

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#3187848 29-Jan-2024 01:13

SheriffNZ: In summary, drive to the speed limit.

Drive to the conditions.

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#3187913 29-Jan-2024 07:48

roobarb:
SheriffNZ: In summary, drive to the speed limit.

Drive to the conditions.

Yes, good point.

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#3188654 30-Jan-2024 21:36

Linux:

Police should be enforcing drivers that don't move left out of the fast lane!!

I drive on the new Puhoi motorway and the number of drivers that sit in the far right hand lane and will not move left is just off the planet

You mean the long distance lane.

Local traffic sticks to the left, so people can exit/merge if they are only going between a couple of on/off ramps.

Long distance traffic uses the right lane (if they can maintain 100km/h) so they are not creating kinematic waves or interacting with semi-local traffic in the left lanes.

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#3188658 30-Jan-2024 21:53

raytaylor:

Linux:

Police should be enforcing drivers that don't move left out of the fast lane!!

I drive on the new Puhoi motorway and the number of drivers that sit in the far right hand lane and will not move left is just off the planet

You mean the long distance lane.

Local traffic sticks to the left, so people can exit/merge if they are only going between a couple of on/off ramps.

Long distance traffic uses the right lane (if they can maintain 100km/h) so they are not creating kinematic waves or interacting with semi-local traffic in the left lanes.

If you want to ask NZTA, the Ministry, or the Minister to re-define it, feel free to do so.

Until that time, legislation (posted above) merely refers to it as the right lane and says you may not use it unless passing, turning right, the lanes to the left are congested, or other signage/obstructions/conditions require you to do so.

So, no, it's not the long distance lane.

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#3188688 31-Jan-2024 00:38

SomeoneSomewhere:

So, no, it's not the long distance lane.

Its not the speeding lane either :-)

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#3188691 31-Jan-2024 00:44

No, in the sense that no lane is the speeding lane.

But it doesn't mean that "I'm doing the limit" is a valid reason to sit in the right hand lane.

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#3188697 31-Jan-2024 07:08

Except when it is.
Approximately twice every day when all are congested.

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#3188698 31-Jan-2024 07:12

raytaylor:

Linux:

Police should be enforcing drivers that don't move left out of the fast lane!!

I drive on the new Puhoi motorway and the number of drivers that sit in the far right hand lane and will not move left is just off the planet

You mean the long distance lane.

Local traffic sticks to the left, so people can exit/merge if they are only going between a couple of on/off ramps.

Long distance traffic uses the right lane (if they can maintain 100km/h) so they are not creating kinematic waves or interacting with semi-local traffic in the left lanes.

@raytaylor what is a long distance lane? passing traffic uses the right lane and that is it you must keep left

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#3188747 31-Jan-2024 09:33

The 'long distance lane' is the 'I can't be arsed dealing with merging traffic at every onramp' lane.

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#3188751 31-Jan-2024 09:50

k1w1k1d:

"AA Motoring Affairs expert Mark Stockdale explains.

“International law has long required modern cars to overstate true speed. The applicable standard for most vehicles sold in NZ is a European standard that specifies that speedometers must not indicate a speed less than the vehicle’s true speed, or a speed greater than the vehicle’s true speed by an amount of more than 10 percent plus 4 km/h.”

What does this mean in real driving terms?

Well, another way to look at it is, at an indicated speed of 100km/h, the vehicle's true speed must be between 87.3 km/h and 100km/h."

I thought this was to protect the car manufacturers from lawsuits resulting from speeding fines.
i.e. speed is calculated from wheel revolutions so:
- if a Muppet puts a oversized tyre on the car, the speedo would understate the cars speed resulting in a speeding fine (tax surcharge).
- The Muppet could then accuse the car manufacturer of faulty speedo....

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#3188806 31-Jan-2024 12:25

SomeoneSomewhere:

No, in the sense that no lane is the speeding lane.

But it doesn't mean that "I'm doing the limit" is a valid reason to sit in the right hand lane.

What are drivers thinking when they see 400 meters or more of no traffic in front of them in the right hand lane of multi-lane motorways?

That'll be enough following distance.
I wonder why everyone is giving me the fingers?
Great! There's no traffic today.
I thought the other cars were travelling too fast. 96 km/h in my car with a high speedometer reading is surely close enough.
She'll be right
Why would I change lane, this is fine.
It's amazing that I don't need a mirror to drive. The driving instructor was wrong.
I can't quite get these noodles into my mouth when travelling at the same speed as other traffic, so I'll slow down.
I can't watch Netflix when travelling with the flow of traffic.
I'll show them that I'm right
Why aren't more people pulled over by the cops for tailgating?
It's my right to travel how I like

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#3188811 31-Jan-2024 12:35

evnafets:
The 'long distance lane' is the 'I can't be arsed dealing with merging traffic at every onramp' lane.

Ah, the lazy entitled ute/SUV lane!

If trucks can handle merging traffic despite being 5x longer, travelling slower, and having no power to accelerate, you can too.

If you can't be arsed driving, get in a bus.

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#3188814 31-Jan-2024 12:40

Oblivian: Except when it is.
Approximately twice every day when all are congested.

That's not the excuse in use; it's that the left lane is congested.

And if you've got a ten second following distance, maybe you should reconsider whether the left lane is as congested as you think it is.

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