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#2854407 20-Jan-2022 21:55

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Following the link reveals "From $61,990MRP plus on-road costs (from $53,365+ORC when including Clean Car Rebate of $8,625)."

So, unqualified price = excl ORC, incl rebate.

A touch deceptive? Especially since the "Now" price is $2000 more than it was 3 months ago (https://www.autocar.co.nz/peugeot-e-208-and-e-2008/)

Usual practice?

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#2854411 20-Jan-2022 22:01

DS248:

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Following the link reveals "From $61,990MRP plus on-road costs (from $53,365+ORC when including Clean Car Rebate of $8,625)."

So, unqualified price = excl ORC, incl rebate.

A touch deceptive? Especially since the "Now" price is $2000 more than it was 3 months ago (https://www.autocar.co.nz/peugeot-e-208-and-e-2008/)

Usual practice?

Or perhaps the "Now" refers to a $100 drop from $53,365 to $53,265 (or maybe the '2' just a mistake in the ad !)

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#2854442 21-Jan-2022 05:51

So expensive cars are cutting price to get into rebate threshold, I wonder if cheap cars will increase prices to take advantage of the free discount. Time will tell.

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#2854452 21-Jan-2022 08:09

DS248:

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Following the link reveals "From $61,990MRP plus on-road costs (from $53,365+ORC when including Clean Car Rebate of $8,625)."

So, unqualified price = excl ORC, incl rebate.

A touch deceptive? Especially since the "Now" price is $2000 more than it was 3 months ago (https://www.autocar.co.nz/peugeot-e-208-and-e-2008/)

Usual practice?

A touch deceptive?

More than a touch, I would consider reporting this to advertising standards.

The price you pay at the dealers is still the $61,990 plus ORC, the gov rebate isnt anything to do with Peugeot or the dealer and if you walk in with only $53,365 you cannot drive out in the car.

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#2854517 21-Jan-2022 10:28

Peugeot web page seems a bit clearer.

https://peugeotnorthshore.co.nz/vehicles/electric-cars/

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#2854527 21-Jan-2022 11:09

kingdragonfly: Peugeot web page seems a bit clearer.

https://peugeotnorthshore.co.nz/vehicles/electric-cars/

Yes, it was just the ad on CNN that was deceptive.

Initially I thought, wow, Peugeot have dropped their e-208 price heavily - now closing in on MG.

Enough to encourage me to click on the ad link to check the details, something I very rarely do ($53,265 - $8,625 starting to look tempting!).

But alas, not.

Unfortunately the ad is no longer showing & I didn't take a full screen image :(.

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#2854540 21-Jan-2022 11:39

i don't understand this

was person driving or was he not driving? if he's driving it's his fault obviously. but is he claiming is wasn't in control of the car.

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/tesla-driver-charged-after-autopilot-fatality/

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#2854541 21-Jan-2022 11:44

Batman:

i don't understand this

was person driving or was he not driving? if he's driving it's his fault obviously. but is he claiming is wasn't in control of the car.

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/tesla-driver-charged-after-autopilot-fatality/

I guess he's the poor bastard who happened to still be standing when the music stopped. This kind of "who's fault is it anyway?" suit was inevitable. Especially right at the moment when we are in the uncomfortable middle ground between driver in total control and driver can go to sleep at the wheel.

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#2854542 21-Jan-2022 11:47

DS248:

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Following the link reveals "From $61,990MRP plus on-road costs (from $53,365+ORC when including Clean Car Rebate of $8,625)."

So, unqualified price = excl ORC, incl rebate.

A touch deceptive? Especially since the "Now" price is $2000 more than it was 3 months ago (https://www.autocar.co.nz/peugeot-e-208-and-e-2008/)

Usual practice?

Looks ok to me. That's a good price for that car. The increase may be due to the NZ$ going down about 5% over the past 2-3 months (71c US to 68c US) and the cost of battery metals increasing over the past 6 months.

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#2854553 21-Jan-2022 12:00

Batman:

i don't understand this

was person driving or was he not driving? if he's driving it's his fault obviously. but is he claiming is wasn't in control of the car.

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/tesla-driver-charged-after-autopilot-fatality/

Pretty easy to understand. He was always driving and he always had control of the car, whether he was using Autopilot or not.

Not to mention that in 2019, no Tesla had the capability to stop for a red light.

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#2854567 21-Jan-2022 12:33

Batman:

i don't understand this

was person driving or was he not driving? if he's driving it's his fault obviously. but is he claiming is wasn't in control of the car.

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/tesla-driver-charged-after-autopilot-fatality/

How is it unclear? How can people drive and not understand this?

not even FSB beta is classed as anything other than a L2 driver aid.

The media is as much at fault for this perception as anyone always pushing a bs view of autopilot and clickbait stories.

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#2854571 21-Jan-2022 12:48

Obraik:
Batman:

i don't understand this

was person driving or was he not driving? if he's driving it's his fault obviously. but is he claiming is wasn't in control of the car.

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/tesla-driver-charged-after-autopilot-fatality/

Pretty easy to understand. He was always driving and he always had control of the car, whether he was using Autopilot or not.

Not to mention that in 2019, no Tesla had the capability to stop for a red light.

Ok that's pretty clear. I have never used autopilot so I don't know. Also I'm sure the lawyers have it covered always telling people they are responsible and not the car manufacturer.

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#2854572 21-Jan-2022 12:50

Lawyers?

You need lawyers to tell you you that you are responsible for driving your car??

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#2854628 21-Jan-2022 13:32

What are folks impressions of the Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6? The Ioniq 5 looks great but the Kia EV6 looks stunning. From the side and rear views it reminds me a lot of the Aston Martin DBX. I am looking forward to seeing the EV6 in the flesh.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2854629 21-Jan-2022 13:35

They look ok on video and photos, seen an ioniq 5 on the road and it looks nice, doesnt look that big.

Lots of general disappointment when looking closer at the interior and boot space etc from what I can tell, no idea on ev6

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