ACT bans "petrol and diesel" new car sales from 2035

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#2946471 26-Jul-2022 12:31

mkissin:

I think we can all agree that, broadly speaking, Australia is total garbage when it comes to climate issues. So, something is better than nothing?

New Zealand isn't exactly in a place to get on its high horse though either, since we're bending over backwards to carve out exceptions in any climate policy for primary industries.

The something is effectively nothing. ACT will only achieve their goal if others make it happen. If they get to 2035 and the transition from ICE vehicles hasn’t happened then they’ll probably find their current commitment won’t be upheld.

This is not about getting on a high horse. We should be realistic in our assessments of actions and their actual costs and benefits.

What is happening in NZ is largely irrelevant to assessing what has happened in the ACT. Also, there are already many threads discussing the NZ situation so, again, this doesn’t need to be brought up every time we discuss events in another country.

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#2946474 26-Jul-2022 12:33

I think it provides some interesting background context when even our "100% pure" and "clean and green" country doesn't give a rats.

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#2948141 30-Jul-2022 08:26

here it is!

while you were sleeping ...

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#2948299 30-Jul-2022 12:01

Dingbatt:

I wonder if this sort of pronouncement (the ACT one) will face legal challenge?

On what basis? The Territory has the right to legislate commerce inside its own borders - though as it isn't a state, the Federal Government can simply handwave (legislate) away any law the Territory passes.

Dingbatt:

I have just been watching some videos on the Australian couple taking the Victoria State Government to court over the EV levy they charge on EVs and PHEVs. Essentially a road user charge. Of course the State government has infinite funds to spend on the case, but in true Aussie battler fashion, EV owners from across the country have donated to the couple to fund their case.

One of the principal arguments is that such a tax is a federal matter and not a state one. So unsurprisingly, the other Australian states have registered as interested parties on the side of the Victorian government, and the federal government has done likewise on the side of the couple. Both sides fearing this case will set a precedent for federal vs state powers, particularly with respect to taxation.

Very different scenario. There are very valid arguments that Victoria overstepped its power by effectively applying a consumer tax (which they are prohibited from doing) - especially since Victoria's argument is that the road user charge substitutes for fuel tax which EV vehicles don't pay (even though fuel tax is collected by the federal government, so it's really just a cash grab by the state).

There is also concerns that Victoria charges the road user change on PHEVs, not just BEVs, so PHEV drivers are double taxed. And that Victoria charges even when the vehicle is primarily used interstate, meaning Victoria is collecting money which they claim is to offset road maintenance costs (even though the charge goes to consolidated revenue...) despite the roads being worn down being in New South Wales or South Australia.

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#2948315 30-Jul-2022 12:49

document if anyone's interested https://www.climatechoices.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/2038497/2022_ZEV_Strategy.pdf

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