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  #3478577 6-Apr-2026 21:59
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Come on guys - bring a little math into it...

 

Human reaction times - to detect a problem, decide it's significant, move the foot and apply the brakes - is normally listed as 0.75 to 1.5 seconds. Better if you're Lewis Hamilton, of course. 

 

At 100 kph, that's 20 to 40 metres.

 

And your super sticky tyres & brembos haven't yet had a chance to do _anything_ yet - you're still doing 100.

 

On the other hand, unless the truck ahead of you has driven into a rock face - he's a moving target - so you've got his whole stopping distance to get yourself stopped - before you run up his chuff.

 

And I'm sorry... but to all the guys saying truck brakes have improved... yes they have, but so have car brakes.

 

Unless you are driving something like a Mk 1 Cortina, your car can lock up all of its wheels (if you switched off ABS). With the ABS on, it won't lock up all of its wheels - but it will decelerate at the tyre adhesion limit. Assume the same for the truck (big assumption, given the complexities of brake balancing 6-odd axles and 22-odd tyres).

 

So it comes down to sticky tyres - and few trucking firms are rushing to put Potenzas or Pilot Sports on their rigs.

 

 




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  #3478581 7-Apr-2026 05:55
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so about the fuel price and supply? how is it?


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  #3478583 7-Apr-2026 07:15
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Batman:

 

so about the fuel price and supply? how is it?

 

 

stable, apparently.




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  #3478585 7-Apr-2026 07:28
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What is more concerning than the word stable, is that the future confirmed ships are estimates based on historical trend and that SK has reduced export volumes.  I believe the last of the oil ships from the ME are close to singapore and after that there are no more out that NZ buys oil from?  Aus has negotiated an agreement over its LnG supply to get leverage - what do we have that won't sting our own population?


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  #3478587 7-Apr-2026 07:49
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360960851/nz-down-17-and-half-days-worth-diesel-country

 

 

 

For petrol, the 61.9 days is a combination of 27.2 days inland, 3.2 days on the water within the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and 31.5 outside of EEZ.

 

We have 17.5 days of diesel on land, 8.2 days on water within EEZ and 25.8 days worth outside of EEZ on its way.

 

Jetfuel stocks are comprised of 25.5 days on land, 1.2 days worth on water within EEZ and 23.4 days outside EEZ.

 

Fuel on the water within the EEZ is expected to arrive in up to two days, while fuel on the water outside is up to three weeks away.

 

In contrast, we had 58.7 days of petrol, 52.2 days of diesel and 46.2 days of jet fuel in the last update issued April 1.

 

Monday’s update shows we remain within expectations and show normal patterns of fuel stock, MBIE says.


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  #3478591 7-Apr-2026 08:33
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Batman:

 

so about the fuel price and supply? how is it?

 

 

 

 

I filled up with 91 this weekend. About 45L at $3.49


 
 
 

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  #3478602 7-Apr-2026 09:23
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Batman:

 

so about the fuel price and supply? how is it?

 

 

I added 200km range for about $5.40.  If it was slurping dino juice it would be around ten times that.





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  #3478610 7-Apr-2026 09:41
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I suspect that those who are not in the position to afford an EV probably aren't too appreciative of that information - particularly in the "Fuel price and security of supply" thread. 


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  #3478659 7-Apr-2026 10:10
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Ge0rge:

 

I suspect that those who are not in the position to afford an EV probably aren't too appreciative of that information - particularly in the "Fuel price and security of supply" thread. 

 

 

Afford an EV - you do have to be kidding. Prior to this madness you could get a second hand EV with 120km range for less than $5k. Due to govt policy blindness, and the stupidity of old men overseas that ship has sailed/sunk/been torpedoed.

 

Fuel price and security is exactly my point - owning an EV has insulated folk from variations in (their own) fuel prices and provided (their own) security over fuel supplies.

 

This crisis did not come from nowhere.





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  #3478660 7-Apr-2026 10:16
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This thread is fuel prices and security of supply. There will be EV discussions elsewhere. Let's keep this thread on topic. 


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  #3478663 7-Apr-2026 10:28
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fastbike:

 

......

 

Fuel price and security is exactly my point - owning an EV has insulated folk from variations in (their own) fuel prices and provided (their own) security over fuel supplies.

 

This crisis did not come from nowhere.

 

 

Nor was this unexpected. Like the pandemic this was always going to hit us at some stage, and will again to a worse degree in the future.

 

There are some of us that planned ahead by way of solar, EVs and our own food production who are now having our strategies proved worthwhile. Not 'preppers' as such but mindful of the same potential supply chain failures that drive that philosophy. 





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  #3478664 7-Apr-2026 10:32
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fastbike:

 

I added 200km range for about $5.40.  If it was slurping dino juice it would be around ten times that.

 

 

True. But does ignore the cost of changing cars. If you're replacing anyway then it makes sense. If I sell my existing petrol car for say, I don't know, $10,000, then spend $57,000 on a similar replacement, that's still a lot of money I could spend on petrol still. Get it at 5% over five years and that EV becomes $63,000.

 

So on and so forth. But if you're putting solar in and have the cash to do so then great. But the ROI must be quite a long period of time. 


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  #3478666 7-Apr-2026 10:34
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As above, this is a discussion about fuel prices, and the security of supply. Stay on topic. No more EV discussion. Definitely no more gloating that you have an EV and you're sorted. No more talk about solar panels on your roof at home. This is not the place for it.

 

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  #3478676 7-Apr-2026 11:32
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fastbike:

 

So I drove my EV into the local Challenge station tonight to top up an LPG bba cylinder. 

 

The signs said "No Fuel - Diesel" The owner says they will be back in stock on Tuesday.

 

This is a local station in metro Otautahi Christchurch. Not out in the sticks.

 

The supply chain is impacted - I've not seen this sine the late 70's - when I was a kid.

 

 

Non-availability at one servo is a local logistics issue, not a national supply issue.  NPD Spring Creek near Blenheim ran out of diesel recently.  That was because of vintage.  Trucks, harvesters and tractors were operating 24/7 and lots of diesel was used to keep them all running.  Why that particular servo?  Well ... it's very close to a lot of vineyards, it's easy access for larger vehicles or vehicles towing trailers (e.g. fuel trailers). It's also cheap, located on SH1 and SH62 (link to SH6) and close to number of boat ramps so ... it's popular with the general public too.

 

 





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  #3478723 7-Apr-2026 12:20
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If capacity to store is a real issue - rather than supply - then maybe the government should encourage us to fill up our tanks and 20L cans.


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