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#3135686 27-Sep-2023 23:50

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#3135819 28-Sep-2023 11:14

Tesla has announced today they've opened their Supercharger network to non-Tesla EVs at the following sites:

Auckland (seven chargers), Christchurch (four chargers), New Plymouth (three chargers), Timaru (six chargers), Rotorua (six chargers), and Queenstown (four chargers)

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#3135875 28-Sep-2023 11:43

Obraik: Auckland (seven chargers), Christchurch (four chargers), New Plymouth (three chargers), Timaru (six chargers), Rotorua (six chargers), and Queenstown (four chargers)

Thankfully the NZ charging network isn't bad but for a Tesla owner it is somewhat worrying given charging cables are short (designed for Tesla) and many cars have the charging ports on the wrong side meaning they may be taking up 2 chargers for Tesla owners. So there may be a chance I may arrive at a Supercharger thinking 2 spots are available but have 2 cars taking up all 4 chargers.

The thing with the Supercharger network is they're super reliable and normally in the cars screen you know how many chargers are available but this adds another hurdle to that problem.

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#3136986 30-Sep-2023 12:10

Well, there was a power outage up here in Rodney last night thanks to fallen trees.

Fridge, freezer, water pump and router (obviously) plugged into the car. Got home ~90% charge; by the next morning it was 82% - so we can definitely run the essentials for a couple of days off the car while still leaving enough to spare to get to Orewa or Warkworth to recharge it. I didn't have the hot water plugged into it but that comes from two LPG infinity heaters so they only use ~100W meaning we could easily use those too and still be under 10A.

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#3136994 30-Sep-2023 12:43

Well done @SaltyNZ. Your set-up raises a few points and definitely demonstrates that a typical EV battery's capacity is more than enough to run a typical NZ home's requirements. After all a Powerwall is 13.5kWh and a couple of those is sufficient to do the job, though with an investment similar to some new EVs. Roll on V2G/V2H.

The other thing that comes to mind is to whether it is possible to use a Leaf's stored energy through a V2L connection. Chademo is bidirectional so can an AC supply be derived from it, with the help of a simple connector similar to that used by MG, BYD, etc for V2L, or is an additional inverter needed to get the job done? In other words is the Leaf's onboard inverter able to work in reverse so to speak?

This product is designed for the North American market/voltage and I'm guessing it incorporates an inverter of some sort but no price given. Anybody out there pursued this idea further?

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#3137012 30-Sep-2023 14:16

There is also this unit that does do V2L (despite the website calling it V2H) but the price looks to be "(about £3k)".

https://www.harmlesssolutions.co.nz/

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#3137100 30-Sep-2023 18:15

And V2L is the one thing that that I really wish Tesla had (but doesnt).....

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#3137131 30-Sep-2023 18:54

HarmLessSolutions:The other thing that comes to mind is to whether it is possible to use a Leaf's stored energy through a V2L connection. Chademo is bidirectional so can an AC supply be derived from it, with the help of a simple connector similar to that used by MG, BYD, etc for V2L, or is an additional inverter needed to get the job done? In other words is the Leaf's onboard inverter able to work in reverse so to speak?

In an older leaf it’s pretty trivial to hook up an external inverter to the 12v system and run actually quite a lot of load. Couple hundred bucks from Jaycar (or whatever) and you’re away laughing.
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#3137155 30-Sep-2023 20:25

For those waiting for Subaru EV details, just popped up in my Facebook feed:
https://www.winger.co.nz/new-models/subaru-solterra/
As predicted, under the 80k threshold for an AWD EV, which i think is the first

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#3137557 2-Oct-2023 08:42

Some new tools to help put put an EV fire.

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#3143211 5-Oct-2023 16:32

We have a new cheapest ev, gwm just knocked $5k off the ora bringing it down to $42990 before rebates, so $35,975+orc after rebate. Weird looking thing but definitely down in to the realms of affordable now.

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#3143216 5-Oct-2023 16:58

everettpsycho: We have a new cheapest ev, gwm just knocked $5k off the ora bringing it down to $42990 before rebates, so $35,975+orc after rebate.
Weird looking thing but definitely down in to the realms of affordable now.

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Different folks have different ideas about what affordable means.

You obviously think that $36k is affordable, but it would be close to twice as much as I've ever paid for a car, and I've owned about a dozen over the years.

Google says the median price for a second hand car on TradeMe in 2022 was about $14k, so let's guess at $16k this year.
That's the sort of money most people pay, so I guess that makes it affordable

$36k affordable? yeah ... nah

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#3143219 5-Oct-2023 17:10

Doesn't seem a valid comparison between new and used cars. What's the average price of a new car sold in NZ this year? I'd be surprised if it's under $36k

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#3143276 5-Oct-2023 17:55

Scottish MG owner stuck at 30mph on motorway police perform rolling stop

Scottish Sun: "I'm still a bit I'm still shaken up, to be honest. I'm all for an electric car but I didn't expect that.

"I first realised something was wrong because I suddenly got warning lights. Within 60 seconds I had nine warning lights. I went to pull over and put my foot on the brake and nothing happened.

"I tried the park button, engine off button, everything. Then it was panic stations because it wouldn't stop and everything was flashing.

Article has links to a few other very odd EV stories.

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#3143280 5-Oct-2023 18:23

gzt: Scottish MG owner stuck at 30mph on motorway police perform rolling stop

Scottish Sun: "I'm still a bit I'm still shaken up, to be honest. I'm all for an electric car but I didn't expect that.

"I first realised something was wrong because I suddenly got warning lights. Within 60 seconds I had nine warning lights. I went to pull over and put my foot on the brake and nothing happened.

"I tried the park button, engine off button, everything. Then it was panic stations because it wouldn't stop and everything was flashing.

Article has links to a few other very odd EV stories.

Nothing to do with EVs, really. This happens just as often to ICEs. It isn't a 'EV' thing, it's a 'computer on wheels' thing.

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