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#3293074 4-Oct-2024 18:45

Came across some screenshots from a recent McKinsey & Co review of EV ownership.

49% of current Australian EV owners surveyed said their next car will be an ICE (46% for US).

Top three reasons given:

Charging infrastructure in public infrastructure not yet good enough (35%)
Total costs of ownership too high - ie, depreciation (34%)
Driving patterns on long distance trips too much impacted (32%)

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#3293077 4-Oct-2024 18:58

Surveys like that only take a small snapshot of society, which depending on the specific location or demographic that's surveyed, will determine what kind of responses are made.

Would be interesting to pose this question to every single EV owner and see if the numbers change. Also to ask NZers what their thoughts are.

Overall, I think we're in a good place for charging infrastructue throughout NZ, and more is always being installed, so the infrastructure being inadequate should be a moot point here. Of course there are still dead spots such as most of the West Coast of the South Island, and Springs Junction etc, but with time these will fill in.

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#3293079 4-Oct-2024 19:34

Mehrts:

Surveys like that only take a small snapshot of society, which depending on the specific location or demographic that's surveyed, will determine what kind of responses are made.

Would be interesting to pose this question to every single EV owner and see if the numbers change. Also to ask NZers what their thoughts are.

Overall, I think we're in a good place for charging infrastructue throughout NZ, and more is always being installed, so the infrastructure being inadequate should be a moot point here. Of course there are still dead spots such as most of the West Coast of the South Island, and Springs Junction etc, but with time these will fill in.

It certainly hasn't discouraged the Norwegians.

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#3293130 5-Oct-2024 08:45

deepred:

It certainly hasn't discouraged the Norwegians.

Massive government subsidies do tend to encourage.

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#3293170 5-Oct-2024 12:01

A fifth recall for Tesla Cybertruck within a year, the latest due to rearview display: AP News

Tesla is recalling more than 27,000 Cybertrucks because the rearview camera image may not activate immediately after shifting into reverse, the fifth recall for the vehicle since it went on sale late last year.

Tesla has released a free software upgrade to address the issue and owner notification letters are expected to be mailed Nov. 25.

Cybertruck owners have had to deal with a series of recalls since the vehicle went on sale in November. In June, there was a recall to fix problems with trim pieces that can come loose and front windshield wipers that can fail. Two months before that, some Cybertrucks were recalled because the accelerator pedal could stick.

In the most recent recall, the company notified the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that the display screens in the trucks may remain blank for up to 8 seconds after a driver shifts to reverse. The U.S. requires those screens to activate with a rearview within 2 seconds of shifting into reverse
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#3293174 5-Oct-2024 12:28

dafman: Massive government subsidies do tend to encourage.

Attacks on oil facilities and oil tankers tend to encourage EV ownership.

Pick your poison

Israel targeting Iranian oil
Houthis in Yemen conflict involving the Bab el-Mandeb Strait
Ukrainians attacking Russian facilities
attacks on oil tanker located Strait of Hormuz, between Iran and the UAE
oil tankers seized over violations of Syrian sanctions.

Oil Markets, Oil Attacks, and the Strategic Straits: Center for Strategic and International Studies

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#3293181 5-Oct-2024 13:16

“Recall” 🤦‍♂️ it’ll be fixed with an over the air software update.

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#3293183 5-Oct-2024 13:53

Like many of the stories about Tesla's recalls - it is actually just an over the air update for the camera.

Usually, the updates are pushed out before the media even finds out - but they love those Tesla clickbait headlines.

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#3293188 5-Oct-2024 14:48

dafman:

Massive government subsidies do tend to encourage.

On the other hand, Japan, home of government 'Hydrogen Will Save The World (and in the meantime keep driving an ICE)' magical thinking shows the least inclination to go back to ICE. I bought my first EV before there were subsidies, and I won't ever willingly buy anything else ever again. Even now that the subsidy is gone and RUCs have made the economics slightly less appealing. They're just better in every way.

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#3293411 6-Oct-2024 10:56

This is why American and European EV manufacturers need huge tariffs to survive, they are totally unprepared to cope with competition like this.

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#3296372 12-Oct-2024 09:56

Tesla had a “We, Robot” event overnight to reveal the RoboTaxi and Robovan (pronounced Row-Boven by Musk).

For the Robotaxi he claimed 2027 and $US30000, so expect 2030+ and $US60000. My initial thought was, put a steering wheel and pedals in it and some conventional doors and sell it as a Tesla Model 2.

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#3296532 12-Oct-2024 16:57

A question from a non Tesla owner. A friend of mine has a Chevy Bolt in the US and he is now able to access the Tesla Superchargers to charge it. He does need a NACS adapter and some setup in his Ford car app. He asked if people can charge non-Tesla cars in a Tesla supercharger here and I said I didn't know but would ask.

Full disclosure - I have a BYD Atto3 and I might use a Tesla charger if I were on a long road trip and other chargers were not available.

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#3296534 12-Oct-2024 17:07

@lchiu7 https://www.tesla.com/en_nz/support/supercharging-other-evs

NZ's just further down the list than USA.

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#3296535 12-Oct-2024 17:12

lchiu7:

A question from a non Tesla owner. A friend of mine has a Chevy Bolt in the US and he is now able to access the Tesla Superchargers to charge it. He does need a NACS adapter and some setup in his Ford car app. He asked if people can charge non-Tesla cars in a Tesla supercharger here and I said I didn't know but would ask.

Full disclosure - I have a BYD Atto3 and I might use a Tesla charger if I were on a long road trip and other chargers were not available.

I investigated using the Tesla network when they first opened them up to non-Teslas in NZ. We have a Polestar2. It took a bit of digging but it turned out that the rates for non-Teslas is somewhere over $1.00/kWh and/or a monthly membership fee so the most expensive charging going. A last resort for me and unlikely that I'll be in a situation to require one as I have Chargenet, Openloop, Z and WEL memberships currently so not expecting to run out of other options. Also we typically only travel far enough to require public charging about once every 2-3 months so not a significant need for us.

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#3296540 12-Oct-2024 17:54

RunningMan:

@lchiu7 https://www.tesla.com/en_nz/support/supercharging-other-evs

NZ's just further down the list than USA.

I guess you are saying NZ is available based on this list

https://www.tesla.com/en_nz/support/supercharging-other-evs#live-markets

My friend just sent me this note

"I temporarily set my region to NZ, looks like the Tesla App will allow me to activate selected available stations in places like Johnsonville, Taupo etc. The downside is the crushing 94c per Kw (similar to the UK) but I guess if you need a top up that's the going price. Not too harsh if you do 95% of your charging at home and only use public charging for long trips. The high prices also means that the chargers are not that crowded since they will be mostly used for enough of a boost to reach a domestic plug destination :)"

And

The Tesla subscription rate charge for Johnsonville is 70c Kw but costs 12.99 a month.
However "off peak" Tesla charges (whenever they are) drops to 44c

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