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  #3482280 19-Apr-2026 20:15
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Well - you're all sure that I'm criminally wrong - and I'm equally sure that you are ;-)

 

I also have lots of science training, decades of experience, lots of thinking about it and looking at the real world on all the continents...
And a very different world view.
I can't prove you're wrong - only time will do that - but I surely think you are.

 

Yes a lot of the carbon-based fuels can be found in 'shitty' parts of the world... but contrasted to Canada, Norway, Russia (perhaps shitty), USA, which are still digging them up and using them - many of the un-shitty parts of the world with lots of available carbon have chosen - have freely chosen - not to dig it out and use it. Instead, they (Britain, Australia, NZ... you know who you are) get warm green fuzzies by buying it in from the shitty places. Morally superior. 

 

And then they winge about the supply chain !   

 

Next, we have the energy solution that we should have been moving to for the past 50 years - nuclear. The proven-safest (by any metric you want to debate) source of power, that started to come on stream in my earliest years - only to be regulated to death by a green Luddite mob. Except in the Green's most embarrassing country - France. Which just gets on with making nuclear power work and selling clean, reliable MWh to Britain the rest of Europe.

 

Instead, we (and Australia & Britain & Germany & Spain) are enjoying the fragility of a grid becoming over-reliant on un-reliables. Very luckily (and uniquely) NZ has massive hydro to carry the load when the wind drops at night. 

 

And yes, I know about batteries - I have a 5000$ one in my house. It runs a 40th of the house for 8 hours. Scale that up for NZ - it's just silly.

 

I have hope that the tide is turning and that nuclear will regain traction, that hydrocarbons can relax to doing mostly aircraft, fertiliser and chemical work - and that the affluent part of the planet can get over the climate delusion and tackle some of their real problems. 

 

So - just know that not all 'right-thinking people' think you're right ;-)




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  #3482281 19-Apr-2026 20:17
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johno1234:

 

Will you lot please take this stuff to an appropriate thread? This one is about security of supply under the gulf conflict. Not climate. Not energy sustainability. 

 

 

I think trying to untie the two is difficult and you should be patient about the obvious overlaps between our energy dependence on oil at the big-picture level and the impacts of the Persian Gulf / Strait of Hormuz issues.

 

Because at the end of the day we're tilting at windmills here on a geek forum anyway. The only thing that's within our control, is to reduce our dependence on the thing which is being choked off. We as individuals can only do this at an individual level, but systemic reductions in vulnerability will only come from strategic changes.





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  #3482308 19-Apr-2026 21:57
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pdh: USA, which are still digging them up and using them

USA's fossil energy gains have been largely due to employing the fracking process. Fracking appears to be rapidly enshittifying aquifer environments people rely on for fresh water, and it probably does have seismic implications in some areas.

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