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#2681869 28-Mar-2021 09:32

Batman:

I think combining land tow is more effective. why just tow from the water.

True. They could use the combined power of tens of thousands of camels - ships of the desert - instead of seahorses.

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#2681934 28-Mar-2021 11:05

A slightly screwed up translation machine on a news site has come up with the solution

"A plan has been made to remelt the ship, which blocks the Suez Canal, using the tides."

Normally you need hot air.

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#2681988 28-Mar-2021 12:19

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gzt: Any reason they are not using heavy lift choppers to take a few containers off the top? Slow as but they seem to have the time.

Would require some of the most capable heavy lift helicopters in the world.

Mil Mi-26 tops out at 56tonne lifting

Sikorsky CH-53 Super Stallion lifts 33T.

Containers generally top out around 30 - 36T depending on variant (of course some a full of bean bags).

Would be extremely expensive, but so is the cost of the closure.

Seems like having a couple of helicopters starting offloading would be prudent. Likely turn around would be fairly quick as there is lots of adjacent space to put the containers.

Two containers at say 4 containers per hour each, times 24 horus a day, means 192 containers a day offloaded. If they could get all 40 foot containers, this would be cira 2% of the ships cargo each 24 hours.

Seems worthwhile given it doesn't clash with other efforts like dredging, digging, and pushing with tugs.

They are talking about bringing a land crane in with the goal of taking 600 containers off one end to lighten it. I wonder about the logistics of that compared to helicopters. Apparently there are still high winds in the area. That could be a problem either way.

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#2681989 28-Mar-2021 12:26

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#2681990 28-Mar-2021 12:31

OR ...

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#2681992 28-Mar-2021 12:37

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Sooooo much better than the Trump one!

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#2681997 28-Mar-2021 12:56

gzt:
They are talking about bringing a land crane in with the goal of taking 600 containers off one end to lighten it. I wonder about the logistics of that compared to helicopters. Apparently there are still high winds in the area. That could be a problem either way.

The logistics of using helicopters isn't good, because there aren't helicopters that can lift the weight of a fully loaded 20 foot container, let alone 40 footers.

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#2682003 28-Mar-2021 13:30

Some numbers previously quoted are for total weight not payload. The Russian MI-26 is 28 tonne itself.

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#2682024 28-Mar-2021 15:43

The Lego version ...

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#2682045 28-Mar-2021 16:50

For a real-time update go to: Is that ship still stuck?

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#2682301 29-Mar-2021 08:29

Bung: Some numbers previously quoted are for total weight not payload. The Russian MI-26 is 28 tonne itself.

Probably still going to be slower than waiting for a proper crane to arrive, and impossible if the winds are still high.

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#2682302 29-Mar-2021 08:31

$46B apparently it's cost to be stuck. Ludicrous! How are they calculating that? I imagine it's all sorts of imaginary costs, rather than actual costs.