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#2346376 30-Oct-2019 16:46

So the car that was hit looks like it was tailgating pretty close. Then tries to pass on the left, and gets taken out as the car he was following also cuts left without checking his blind spot.

Both of the drivers involved drive like muppets if you ask me.

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#2346418 30-Oct-2019 19:28

From the video supplied you can't tell how close behind the Toyota the Holden (?) was. There's certainly not enough to say it was tailgating as the supplied frames begin with the Holden changing lanes.

If anything the sudden swerve to the left by the Toyota suggests to me it had gotten too close to the van in front. The Holden is struck on the drivers door/B pillar area by the passenger-side front corner of the Toyota. So it's not a matter of a blind spot being checked, she didn't check anything.

Chap in the Holden was lucky to walk away from that one.

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#2346974 31-Oct-2019 21:42

I don't think the black car was tailgating. It looks as if it was closing on the grey Toyota and elected to overtake (undertake) on the left which is risky. The option to pass using the right hand lane was blocked by traffic maintaining station with traffic in the middle lane.

I think the Toyota moved left also to overtake (undertake) the white van which was in front of it.

To me it has the hallmarks of vehicles in the middle and right lanes not keeping left to allow faster traffic to overtake on the right, thus encouraging the faster traffic to pass on the left. In my opinion the driver of the white van contributed to this accident by not keeping left. That doesn't excuse the Toyota drive from not checking it was clear before moving left.

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#2347002 31-Oct-2019 23:27

Technofreak:

To me it has the hallmarks of vehicles in the middle and right lanes not keeping left to allow faster traffic to overtake on the right, thus encouraging the faster traffic to pass on the left. In my opinion the driver of the white van contributed to this accident by not keeping left. That doesn't excuse the Toyota drive from not checking it was clear before moving left.

Pet hate: People that cruise in the right lane and make you overtake on the left.

Another pet hate: That its actually legal to overtake in the left lane in NZ.

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#2347014 1-Nov-2019 07:12

This was a few months back ....

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#2347015 1-Nov-2019 07:14

The thing is that you can only overtake on left when on a two lane motorway/highway.

On this video that stretch wasn't a lane at all.

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#2347027 1-Nov-2019 07:55

Dratsab:
From the video supplied you can't tell how close behind the Toyota the Holden (?) was. There's certainly not enough to say it was tailgating as the supplied frames begin with the Holden changing lanes.

If anything the sudden swerve to the left by the Toyota suggests to me it had gotten too close to the van in front. The Holden is struck on the drivers door/B pillar area by the passenger-side front corner of the Toyota. So it's not a matter of a blind spot being checked, she didn't check anything.

Chap in the Holden was lucky to walk away from that one.

I suspect that footage just before the 5 minute later edit would show the dark car weaving from the righthand lane across to the left. The Toyota driver may have checked the left lane was empty without being aware that a vehicle previously on the right was crossing at speed to occupy the same space.

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#2347052 1-Nov-2019 08:51

it looks more like someone missed their exit due the violent nature of the turn to the left.

see it all the time in Auckland.

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#2347363 1-Nov-2019 19:36

I was narrowly missed today by a car in which the driver had the phone to her ear.

I was intrigued to then read this in The Times later on:

"Motorists will be banned from holding mobile phones at the wheel under plans to close a legal loophole that is said to allow reckless driving.

The government is announcing today that it wants drivers to be given a £200 fine and six penalty points for handling a phone in all circumstances as part of a review of the law."

In NZ terms, that's $400 and 50 points.

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#2347437 2-Nov-2019 06:05

Bung: I suspect that footage just before the 5 minute later edit would show the dark car weaving from the righthand lane across to the left. The Toyota driver may have checked the left lane was empty without being aware that a vehicle previously on the right was crossing at speed to occupy the same space.

I suspect from the way she merged onto the motorway she simply isn't given to looking.

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#2347534 2-Nov-2019 10:39

Come to Tauranga and get nearly collected every time at roundabouts where; NOBODY slows down, NOBODY indicates their intentions and everybody couldn't give a flying F***.. It has got to the stage now where I will not enter a roundabout until it is empty, especially these piddly small roundabouts. Greerton and Parkvale are prime examples.

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#2347560 2-Nov-2019 12:12

FineWine:

Come to Tauranga and get nearly collected every time at roundabouts where; NOBODY slows down, NOBODY indicates their intentions and everybody couldn't give a flying F***.. It has got to the stage now where I will not enter a roundabout until it is empty, especially these piddly small roundabouts. Greerton and Parkvale are prime examples.

Agree 100%,

I noticed the inconsiderate and "it's all about me" driving when I moved here, the closer you get to Papamoa the worse it gets, it would have to be the worst city/area for driving I have seen in NZ (and it's only getting worse).

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#2347563 2-Nov-2019 12:27

Had a moment this morning where I was stopped at a give way. Car approaching from the right indicating left and slowing down, starting to turn into the road I was coming out of. I checked left, lifted my foot off the brake to pull out and then suddenly the turning car is going straight through and not turning any more! The driver looked lost. Who would have been at fault there in the case of a collision?

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#2347564 2-Nov-2019 12:29

FineWine:Snip ... NOBODY indicates their intentions .... Snip

You HAVE TO HAVE intentions to indicate them!

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#2347568 2-Nov-2019 12:42

Delphinus: Had a moment this morning where I was stopped at a give way. Car approaching from the right indicating left and slowing down, starting to turn into the road I was coming out of. I checked left, lifted my foot off the brake to pull out and then suddenly the turning car is going straight through and not turning any more! The driver looked lost. Who would have been at fault there in the case of a collision?

Annoying as this can be, the driver with the right of way also has the right to change their mind about turning off the road at any particular point. In black and white terms you would've failed to give way. I'm always very wary at intersections because of this exact scenario.

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