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  #3473451 25-Mar-2026 11:31
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Handsomedan:

 

New RAV4 hybrid pricing has come out and they've confirmed the PHEV is going to be available, topped by the $67k RAV4 GR Sport Plug In Hybrid

 

No Pure EV range provided, but reports are that it could do as much as 100km on a charge - which combined with the 2.5l petrol engine will give pretty decent fuel economy on longer trips and provide almost EV-like economy around town. 

I like the new look...not as much as I like the current model, but the new one isn't offensive to me. 

Some key stats from the website: 

 

 

 

 

Price premium of the PHEV is only $5k (based on GXL 2wd trim), Given it comes with a power boost from 143 kW (quite a lot down on the outgoing hybrid model), to 201 kW, I think it is a reasonably attractive option to those that are OK with the tow rating dropping to 800 kg.

For comparison, ford charges about $5k extra to go from the 154 kW diesel to the 184 kW Diesel in the Ranger wildtrak.

 

 

 

PHEV specs seem solid. 23 kWh battery in a car of this size should be good for around 100km of range (depending on how much of it is useable)

 

11 kW, 3 phase charging, is quite impressive for a PHEV.  This gives a 2.5 hour home charge time, does mean somebody doing multiple trips per day (i.e. 2 long return school runs a day), can quickly charge back up between the trips. (also applies to a person with a very long commute and charging at both home and work).

Traditionally Toyota PHEV's skip out on DC charging so good to see that included. (But outside of a fuel crisis, suspect this will see little use. In normal times cost would be comparable to petrol, and it would be a lot slower).




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  #3473514 25-Mar-2026 13:05
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bZ4x second generation Toyota arrives in NZ stock as a serious competitor. Good timing from Toyota:

2026 Toyota bZ4X Pure 2WD $56,990
2026 Toyota bZ4X Motion AWD $66,990
2026 Toyota bZ4x Touring AWD $69,990

The AWD versions have massive power and slightly less range range than the 591km of the standard model.

https://www.carexpert.co.nz/car-news/2026-toyota-bz4x-updated-ev-lands-in-nz-with-lower-price-more-range

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  #3473527 25-Mar-2026 13:15
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The Toyota bZ4x Touring looks like an awesome family wagon. Now just got to find a spare $70k....




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  #3473576 25-Mar-2026 13:30
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Toyota gives it a 500mm wading depth. More than I expected and very practical.

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  #3473607 25-Mar-2026 14:48
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Still NMC batteries. Am I being too precious about LFP vs NMC for: fire/overheating safety and 90-100% routine charging?


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  #3473610 25-Mar-2026 15:02
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johno1234:

 

Still NMC batteries. Am I being too precious about LFP vs NMC for: fire/overheating safety and 90-100% routine charging?

 

 

Yes they are different NMC chemistry. LFP also performs poorly at sub zero temps.





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  #3473703 25-Mar-2026 18:20
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BlargHonk:

 

The Toyota bZ4x Touring looks like an awesome family wagon. Now just got to find a spare $70k....

 

 

It will also be released in a Subaru variant (think EV Outback).

 

As a current Outback owner, the pricing for the Touring is the same as a current ICE Outback Touring, so I think is pretty good.

 

But it’s the new RAV4 GT plug in hybrid in at sub-$70k pricing is what I think is the most exciting news, I think that will be very popular car - looks great, plenty of power and the best of both worlds (ie. no range anxiety).


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  #3473927 26-Mar-2026 10:47
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Question to all the EV experts. if someone was to buy a sub $6 to $8k Leaf for local commutes under 20km return, what should the criteria be? What are some do's and don’ts. Not quite ready to sell my hybrid which isn’t that economical on 95 and does 19km per litre. Live on top of a hill so being able to power itself up it is important too. 

 

Just mulling over the idea at present and don’t have much point of reference.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3473932 26-Mar-2026 10:55
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Eva888: Question to all the EV experts. if someone was to buy a sub $6 to $8k Leaf for local commutes under 20km return, what should the criteria be? What are some do's and don’ts. Not quite ready to sell my hybrid which isn’t that economical on 95 and does 19km per litre. Live on top of a hill so being able to power itself up it is important too.

Does your hybrid really need 95? I think if you check the manual you'll find it will be fine on 91 just a bit less power which you may or may not notice depending how you use the car.

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  #3473935 26-Mar-2026 10:59
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Eva888:

 

Question to all the EV experts. if someone was to buy a sub $6 to $8k Leaf for local commutes under 20km return, what should the criteria be? What are some do's and don’ts. Not quite ready to sell my hybrid which isn’t that economical on 95 and does 19km per litre. Live on top of a hill so being able to power itself up it is important too. 

 

Just mulling over the idea at present and don’t have much point of reference.

 

 

Battery State of Health is the crucial factor for Leafs. Even a relatively poor SoH will be capable of doing what you require including the uphill run home. You will most likely be home charging (i.e. AC slow charging) which together with not running the battery charge too low will be kinder on the battery than if you use public DC charging which is definitely not adviseable. 

 

Basically a Leaf will return about 5-6km per kWh of charge. Apply the SoH percentage to the original battery capacity to see what you've got as usable charge. So, coming from a cost of 'fuel' aspect divide your (off peak) grid import rate by about 5 and add 7.6c to give you the per km running cost. This should trump any fossil fuel powered vehicle, especially when RUCs are rolled out across all vehicles.

 

Your biggest problem is likely to be sourcing a cheap Leaf as they're in very short supply due to the current fuel situation.





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  #3473939 26-Mar-2026 11:02
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When I investigated a few years ago, I was astonished that the Camry and RAV4 hybrids required different RON fuels (Camry 95, RAV 91) despite having the (almost*) identical 2 litre petrol engine.

 

 

 

*Obviously not identical otherwise they would. The Camry achieved higher power so more likely to knock.





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  #3473940 26-Mar-2026 11:04
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gzt: 
Does your hybrid really need 95? I think if you check the manual you'll find it will be fine on 91 just a bit less power which you may or may not notice depending how you use the car.

 

Don't do that. They list that they will work on 91 because some people refuse to buy anything that needs "premium" and economy will tank with all the mitigations that the ECM does to prevent detonation.

 

The biggest one that I was told by a mechanic they see is a totally carboned up intake from the EGR filling the cylinder with inert exhaust and running rich to prevent knock. 





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  #3473945 26-Mar-2026 11:13
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Eva888: Question to all the EV experts. if someone was to buy a sub $6 to $8k Leaf for local commutes under 20km return, what should the criteria be? What are some do's and don’ts. Not quite ready to sell my hybrid which isn’t that economical on 95 and does 19km per litre. Live on top of a hill so being able to power itself up it is important too.

As a leaf driver with a couple of 6km hills in and out - the initial experience was pretty scary seeing the range drop by 20km by the top of the hill. Not really an issue because most of that is made up on the way down. Similar experience coming home.

For that cash money non-dealer (pre-fuel crisis) you should get something with approx 100-130km range which will be fine. I generally get the rated range.

I will mention the heebee jeebees. The low battery warning goes on at 25km. Then the numbers disappear at 20km adding to the heebee jeebees. Then the turtle at 5km or something. Anyone can do without the heebee jeebees so I'd say in your driving environment buy 50kms more range than you need if you can. Having said that, after a year of driving it I'm a lot more confident when I hit that range and it bothers me less, but I still sweat it, as I should.

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  #3473949 26-Mar-2026 11:18
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gzt: Does your hybrid really need 95? I think if you check the manual you'll find it will be fine on 91 just a bit less power which you may or may not notice depending how you use the car.

Don't do that. They list that they will work on 91 because some people refuse to buy anything that needs "premium" and economy will tank with all the mitigations that the ECM does to prevent detonation. The biggest one that I was told by a mechanic they see is a totally carboned up intake from the EGR filling the cylinder with inert exhaust and running rich to prevent knock.

I had EGR fail and fixed at 160,000km. The dealer mechanic said that was approximately normal. I have owned it since 60,000km and used 91 since then. Premature failure or about right?

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  #3473952 26-Mar-2026 11:25
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HarmLessSolutions:

 

Eva888:

 

Question to all the EV experts. if someone was to buy a sub $6 to $8k Leaf for local commutes under 20km return, what should the criteria be? What are some do's and don’ts. Not quite ready to sell my hybrid which isn’t that economical on 95 and does 19km per litre. Live on top of a hill so being able to power itself up it is important too. 

 

Just mulling over the idea at present and don’t have much point of reference.

 

 

Battery State of Health is the crucial factor for Leafs. Even a relatively poor SoH will be capable of doing what you require including the uphill run home. You will most likely be home charging (i.e. AC slow charging) which together with not running the battery charge too low will be kinder on the battery than if you use public DC charging which is definitely not adviseable. 

 

Basically a Leaf will return about 5-6km per kWh of charge. Apply the SoH percentage to the original battery capacity to see what you've got as usable charge. So, coming from a cost of 'fuel' aspect divide your (off peak) grid import rate by about 5 and add 7.6c to give you the per km running cost. This should trump any fossil fuel powered vehicle, especially when RUCs are rolled out across all vehicles.

 

Your biggest problem is likely to be sourcing a cheap Leaf as they're in very short supply due to the current fuel situation.

 

 

Overall SoH, but also check using Leafspy for cell voltage imbalances when driving  up the hill.





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