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#3474396 27-Mar-2026 13:42

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IMO - Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE: pretty much the same daily running costs for less range and way longer wait time to 'fill up'.

How often do you drive 500km in one day? I do it maybe twice a year. But every other day of the year my EV is fully charged when I get into it in the morning, if I want it to be. (In practice I only plug them in once every 2-3 days).

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#3474406 27-Mar-2026 13:52

dafman:
IMO - Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE: pretty much the same daily running costs for less range and way longer wait time to 'fill up'.

From my perspective zero wait because I'm charging at home. No futzing around at the station and unnecessary spend on coffee and ice blocks.

Charging away from home I just add enough to get back.

Newer vehicles are faster and faster charge anyway.

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#3474409 27-Mar-2026 13:58

dafman:

IMO - Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE: pretty much the same daily running costs for less range and way longer wait time to 'fill up'.

I used 90c/kWh as the public charging cost in my calculation method earlier. It's still 25% cheaper to 'fuel' an EV using public charging that consume petrol in an equivalent vehicle, plus of course the much lower maintenance costs of an EV.

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#3474411 27-Mar-2026 14:02

SaltyNZ:

dafman:

IMO - Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE: pretty much the same daily running costs for less range and way longer wait time to 'fill up'.

How often do you drive 500km in one day? I do it maybe twice a year. But every other day of the year my EV is fully charged when I get into it in the morning, if I want it to be. (In practice I only plug them in once every 2-3 days).

Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE

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#3474413 27-Mar-2026 14:06

alavaliant:

calm:

Does anyone here know if https://smartevchargers.co.nz do good products? A fair bit cheaper than the OEM version. They have come up in search as mentioned in discussions as price points but nothing I could find on the quality of the products or customer service.

TIA

I've had a https://smartevchargers.co.nz/shop/wall-mount-ev-chargers/smart-ev-wall-charger-with-dlb-and-wifi/

for a year and a half and it seems to run fine.

do you use the solar diversion feature? I’m still a little unclear on how that works.

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#3474414 27-Mar-2026 14:09

All in a week: 1. Government announces $50m interest free loans for Chargenet to double charger outlets. 2. Chargenet increases its charge rates. Coincidence?

Not great messaging / signaling during a fuel crisis.

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#3474416 27-Mar-2026 14:11

dafman:

All in a week: 1. Government re-re-re-reannounces $50m interest free loans for Chargenet to double charger outlets. 2. Chargenet increases its charge rates. Coincidence?

Not great messaging in a petrol fuel crisis.

Fixed.

That isn't a new policy. They campaigned on it (because it was the better way to ensure people would buy EVs than the clean car scheme). They just didn't actually act on it. And way back when they first announced it ChargeNet and the other networks said thanks, that's nice, it won't make any difference to our plans.

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#3474419 27-Mar-2026 14:14

I have a Atto3. The apps says over 30K of driving my average energy use is 14.2kWh/100km. I charge the car at night using Genesis EV plan at 19c/kWh. So I think i am saving heaps over an ICE even with super at $2.8 but even more now then it's $3.6. I rarely charge on the road and if I do I use the Genesis/Chargenet partnership so even in the daytime I am only paying about 32c/kWh (+GST)

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#3474431 27-Mar-2026 14:40

dafman: Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE

Depends yeah. There are a range of good reasons. The Genesis plan or similar is best for that charging away from home economy.

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#3474450 27-Mar-2026 15:47

dafman:

All in a week: 1. Government announces $50m interest free loans for Chargenet to double charger outlets. 2. Chargenet increases its charge rates. Coincidence?

Not great messaging / signaling during a fuel crisis.

Shock horror, they raised their prices by 5 cents per kWh.

One has nothing to do with the other.

BTW: The "investment" from the government is a loan, not free money.

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#3474451 27-Mar-2026 15:51

dafman:

Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE

I have experience with having EVs and no home charging for extended periods in Norway. There is a little more planning involved - I mean from just plugging in when parking at home - using 5 seconds to deal with the charging - to having to charge on public chargers is a bit of a change.

Still I keep choosing to rent EVs when in Norway. Because driving one is such a better experience, and because I have been able to line up charging with things like shopping, so the wait time has been close to zero.

It IS possible to have EVs without home charging. It is just not as convenient.

My experience here in NZ with my EV is that its a time saver over having an ICE vehicle. Not having to smell petrol fumes most of the time is also a big plus.

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#3474454 27-Mar-2026 15:57

Scott3:

CokemonZ:

If anyone is looking for a deal: 2026 MG ZS EV ZSEV EV Excite 51kWh | Trade Me Motors

I have just put a deposit down - approx 4 - 6 weeks to delivery.

These demo units apparently landed in 2023, and haven't been used so get the full warranty from now.

The reviews are good, the price is excellent, and they have 10 white and 3 black left as of 9am this morning.

You are buying second hand ones at essentially this proce.

I umm and ahh'd about a 62kw leaf vs this, and basically new, with the LFP chemistry sold me.

On their website they have quietly increased the price of this deal by $500 vs what is on your trademe link.

https://ebbettpukekohemg.co.nz/zsevxb-1212083-mg-zsev-2026/

This deal has been running since Jan, but in light of the used EV market getting absolutely decimated, it is much more attractive. Cheapest post facelift ZS EV on trademe now is asking $25k (it's a 2023 with 80,000km). I get that these cars are also 2013 builds, but having a 2026 first registration date means you pick up a lot more warranty, and better resale. In my eyes, absolutely worth the extra $5500, to get the new version.

https://www.cheapies.nz/node/54558

I think I would take this over a 2019 Nissan leaf e+ for similar money. Yeah it is a bit down on power and range vs the Nissan, but having a CCS2 port will make public charging easier if you ever take the car on a trip.

For those interested, note these are run out cars. MGS5 is the new model in that segment in MG's lineup. From $45k.

Dongfeng Box is the other cheap new EV to consider at $27k, but I feel the MG ZS EV is easily worth the extra money.

It seems things went crazy at Ebbett Pukekohe. They were so busy with the ZS deal they had to get used car staff to help with the phones. They had to secure additional stock, and apparently they sold something like 130 (not sure how much exaggeration involved 😉). They're a well spec'd car for $30k!

They've just traded in a 2022 Kia Niro Light, with over 60,000km on the clock. They apparently want $37,000.00 for it! A little over a year ago that would have been $30k-$35k at best.

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#3474455 27-Mar-2026 16:02

gzt:
dafman: Not much incentive for people without home charging to buy an EV over ICE

Depends yeah. There are a range of good reasons. The Genesis plan or similar is best for that charging away from home economy.

As @gzt says, if you use a plan like the Genesis EV one, even people without home charging can get their EV running costs well below the equivalent sized ICE.

And what proportion of the NZ population are in the unfortunate position of being without home charging?
It must be only those who have no off-street parking and those who live in apartment blocks where the landlord / Body Corporate is not prepared to allow power to their parking spaces.

It's unfortunate for them, but I don't think they're a high proportion of the car / SUV market in this 'half-gallon quarter-acre pavlova paradise' of ours.

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#3474509 27-Mar-2026 17:01

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And what proportion of the NZ population are in the unfortunate position of being without home charging?
It must be only those who have no off-street parking and those who live in apartment blocks where the landlord / Body Corporate is not prepared to allow power to their parking spaces.

My home is a small unit, with a freehold accessory car park about 200 metres away. It's got nothing to do with whether the body corporate (actually residents' association in my case) is 'prepared to allow power' - the residents' association simply doesn't have any electrical infrastructure there. At some stage I will get a sparky to come and look at it, but I suspect that any potential solution won't be cheap.

There are an awful lot of generalisations being made in this thread without regard for individual circumstances. I fully expect that it will be viable for me to buy an electric vehicle at some stage in the future, but in the meantime I'll drive the car that suits my practical needs rather than someone else's idealogical prejudices.

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#3474510 27-Mar-2026 17:10

alasta:

My home is a small unit, with a freehold accessory car park about 200 metres away. It's got nothing to do with whether the body corporate (actually residents' association in my case) is 'prepared to allow power' - the residents' association simply doesn't have any electrical infrastructure there. At some stage I will get a sparky to come and look at it, but I suspect that any potential solution won't be cheap.

There are an awful lot of generalisations being made in this thread without regard for individual circumstances. I fully expect that it will be viable for me to buy an electric vehicle at some stage in the future, but in the meantime I'll drive the car that suits my practical needs rather than someone else's idealogical prejudices.

Personally I think that instead of the government loaning out a pittance to ChargeNet, who already said it won't make any material difference to them, they should be providing this money as a grant to people in your situation to install a set of chargers in the shared car parking areas, or as streetpole installations for those who park on the street.

That would make far more practical difference than their current scheme.

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