|
|
|
Handle9:
Your point is what?
You think people in NZ have little concern for conflicts which don't affect them, but on the other hand some New Zealanders deliberately avoid doing business with a country which supplies weapons to the RSF.
cddt:
Handle9:
Your point is what?
You think people in NZ have little concern for conflicts which don't affect them, but on the other hand some New Zealanders deliberately avoid doing business with a country which supplies weapons to the RSF.
Those 10 people who are actually actively avoiding doing business with the UAE are vastly outnumbered by the majority who have no idea about either war.
Family is off to Australia on Monday for a couple of weeks holiday. Hope they have enough petrol for our rental car and QANTAS saves enough jet fuel to get us home. 😁
cddt:
You think people in NZ have little concern for conflicts which don't affect them...
I would say that this has been absolutely obvious - for many, many years.
The NZ communist Brigade has spent a century resolutely ignoring the Stalinist genocide - 10 million deaths, Mao's purges of 50+ million.
Because of the political leanings of most of our teaching cadre, these are not much talked about in our history classes.
From the 50's to 80's era -
We were all over apartheid - and boosters for the Falklands - but quiet on Idi Amin's slaughter, Saddam, Pinochet, Pol Pot.
From the past 30 years -
There's the Sudan, Myanmar, Darfur, Ethiopia, Yemen, some with thousands, some with hundreds of thousands...
I'm not claiming any other country takes a more active role in stopping this sort of atrocity.
But, aside from useless 'condemnations' at the UN, what do we (or can we) do ?
Yes, we've participated bravely in two WW's (which were clearly going to 'affect' us - so not really what we're talking about)
and at least four regional conflicts where we sent forces to help & to legitimise global intervention.
But increasingly we seem to be cheering for 'socially accepted' butchers - ISIS, Hamas & the Iranian Guard.
And if someone steps in to curtail an atrocity - and to prevent a bigger one - then we get an 80-page thread in Geekzone lamenting the price of fuel.
I've read most of it - and I don't remember all the posts welcoming a hit to the wallet - as a price willingly paid to un-seat those in Tehran responsible for (you pick a number) of deaths amongst the Iranian population pushing for human rights - men's & women's rights - just this past year.
k1w1k1d:
Family is off to Australia on Monday for a couple of weeks holiday. Hope they have enough petrol for our rental car and QANTAS saves enough jet fuel to get us home. 😁
They have also slashed taxes off fuel.
91 RON is AUD1.725/L at my local (It was about $1.5 in December). Diesel is AUD 2.325
pdh:
cddt:
You think people in NZ have little concern for conflicts which don't affect them...
I would say that this has been absolutely obvious - for many, many years.
The NZ communist Brigade has spent a century resolutely ignoring the Stalinist genocide - 10 million deaths, Mao's purges of 50+ million.
Because of the political leanings of most of our teaching cadre, these are not much talked about in our history classes.
From the 50's to 80's era -
We were all over apartheid - and boosters for the Falklands - but quiet on Idi Amin's slaughter, Saddam, Pinochet, Pol Pot.
From the past 30 years -
There's the Sudan, Myanmar, Darfur, Ethiopia, Yemen, some with thousands, some with hundreds of thousands...
I'm not claiming any other country takes a more active role in stopping this sort of atrocity.
But, aside from useless 'condemnations' at the UN, what do we (or can we) do ?
Yes, we've participated bravely in two WW's (which were clearly going to 'affect' us - so not really what we're talking about)
and at least four regional conflicts where we sent forces to help & to legitimise global intervention.
But increasingly we seem to be cheering for 'socially accepted' butchers - ISIS, Hamas & the Iranian Guard.
And if someone steps in to curtail an atrocity - and to prevent a bigger one - then we get an 80-page thread in Geekzone lamenting the price of fuel.
I've read most of it - and I don't remember all the posts welcoming a hit to the wallet - as a price willingly paid to un-seat those in Tehran responsible for (you pick a number) of deaths amongst the Iranian population pushing for human rights - men's & women's rights - just this past year.
How do you do -1000 on a post again?
If you think this war was about the Iranian people you have rocks in your head. As for the rest of it, you are largely talking clap trap.
k1w1k1d:
Family is off to Australia on Monday for a couple of weeks holiday. Hope they have enough petrol for our rental car and QANTAS saves enough jet fuel to get us home. 😁
And we don't have pandemic either in the meantime with this recent outbreak
Yeah I booked tickets to Canada in March to beat price increases and I’m hoping there’s enough jet fuel in July to get me there and back and hoping the flight isn’t cancelled.
pdh:
But increasingly we seem to be cheering for 'socially accepted' butchers - ISIS, Hamas & the Iranian Guard.
And if someone steps in to curtail an atrocity - and to prevent a bigger one - then we get an 80-page thread in Geekzone lamenting the price of fuel.
I've read most of it - and I don't remember all the posts welcoming a hit to the wallet - as a price willingly paid to un-seat those in Tehran responsible for (you pick a number) of deaths amongst the Iranian population pushing for human rights - men's & women's rights - just this past year.
If you think anyone is cheering for Hamas and the Iranian government, you've seriously misread not just the thread, but the world.
Both are violently brutal misogynistic thugs who use religion as their excuse to repress, torture and kill people, women in particular, and the world would be a measurably better place if they magically suddenly ceased to exist. But it is also true that bombing Lebanon and Iran would (a) not fix the problem, and (b) create a whole bunch of new ones for the entire planet, and only the world's two greatest stable geniuses (who both need a foreign distraction to stay out of prison) would think that it was a good idea.
iPad Pro 11" + iPhone 15 Pro Max + 2degrees 4tw!
These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.
cddt: "You think people in NZ have little concern for conflicts which don't affect them..."
pdh: I would say that this has been absolutely obvious - for many, many years.
kingdragonfly:cddt: "You think people in NZ have little concern for conflicts which don't affect them..."
pdh: I would say that this has been absolutely obvious - for many, many years.
I can see the point you’re making. "all politics is local"
That said, this thread is in the Transport (cars, bikes and boats) section. It’s really just about fuel prices and their impact here, not a wider geopolitical or historical discussion.
If you want to get into Iran, global conflicts, or NZ’s foreign‑policy approach, the Political forum is where those conversations usually happen, and you’ll get a much more engaged audience there.
Let’s give the gear heads, amp addicts, and battery boffins their corner of the forum.
Getting back on track, the Clean Car Discount wasn't a be all & end all, but it was a start. NZ would probably have been even more exposed to geopolitically sensitive oil prices without it.
"I regret to say that we of the F.B.I. are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce." — J. Edgar Hoover
"Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it of industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money. Ask for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's ability to pay for them. Light blue touch paper." — Andrew Maxwell
pdh:
But, aside from useless 'condemnations' at the UN, what do we (or can we) do ?
NZ has a assisted with peacekeeping in a number of areas around the world.
The Narrative continues to persist / IEA warning a few weeks remain before stock levels are critical.
"The commercial inventories are declining... I think it's depleting very fast now," Fatih Birol told journalists as he arrived for a meeting of G7 finance ministers in Paris.
"We have still several weeks but we should be aware of the fact that they're declining rapidly," he said, warning that "these are not endless".
iPad Pro 11" + iPhone 15 Pro Max + 2degrees 4tw!
These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.
JPNZ:
Diesel price down 22 Cents a litre 13-5-26 to 19-5-26 now $2.74 a litre
Diesel price $2.77 a litre up 3 cents on last week
Panasonic 65GZ1000, Onkyo RZ730, Atmos 5.1.2, AppleTV 4K, Nest Mini's, PS5, PS3, MacbookPro, iPad Pro, Apple watch SE2, iPhone 15+
SaltyNZ:
The Narrative continues to persist / IEA warning a few weeks remain before stock levels are critical.
"The commercial inventories are declining... I think it's depleting very fast now," Fatih Birol told journalists as he arrived for a meeting of G7 finance ministers in Paris.
"We have still several weeks but we should be aware of the fact that they're declining rapidly," he said, warning that "these are not endless".
The problem is that "Mr IEA's" Creditability is pretty low,
A month ago he came out and said that Europe had "maybe six weeks of jet fuel left" to which everyone said that's simply wrong..."https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjw2kz0l22o
Here's the raw interview footage, he come across as totally out of his depth making such broad sweeping statements....
|
|
|