Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




66 posts

Master Geek


# 110371 8-Oct-2012 14:22
Send private message

According to http://www.consumer.org.nz/reports/child-car-seats/child-restraints-and-the-law

"Older children between 5 and 7 must use an approved child restraint if one is available – otherwise they must use an adult safety belt. If no safety belt’s available, they must be in the back seat."

So as above it is ok for a 5year old to seat as the back and wear the seat belt?Or Am I wrong?


I got pulled over by a cop today as my son 5 year old(his 5th birthday was last week) he sat on the car without a car seat but of couse wearing the safety seat belt. 

After the cop asked for  my licence and returned to his car to check then he gave me a warning that I'm  not allow to carry my son on the car without a booster seat.

I have gifted his car seat to another child so I'm not sure if I do need to buy a new one for my son:)

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
3344 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Vocus

  # 697884 8-Oct-2012 14:26
Send private message

Put it this way; regardless of the law, many studies show that your child is much safer in a booster, ie the reduced risk of injury is significant.

Half boosters are only about $40. Full boosters can be had for $100.



66 posts

Master Geek


  # 697903 8-Oct-2012 14:52
Send private message

Thanks,but I would like if some one can confirm if it's legal to carry a child passenger as the back who is 5 year and older without a car seat,as my car got a "L" plate on it which I use for my wife to learn to drive and I think that's the main reason that the cop pulled me over.

 
 
 
 


634 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  # 697911 8-Oct-2012 15:07
Send private message

iapple: Thanks,but I would like if some one can confirm if it's legal to carry a child passenger as the back who is 5 year and older without a car seat,as my car got a "L" plate on it which I use for my wife to learn to drive and I think that's the main reason that the cop pulled me over.


According to this from the NZ Transport Agency it is allowed.

"If the child is aged five to seven years you must use an approved child restraint if there's one available and if it's appropriate for the child's age and size. Otherwise they must use a safety belt if one is available. If there are no child restraints or safety belts available, they must travel in the back seat."
 

656 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

  # 697916 8-Oct-2012 15:11
Send private message

Here's the NZTA factsheet: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/factsheets/07/child-restraints.html

Here's the relevant section of the Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303625.html

7.7Driver must ensure passengers of or over 5 years but under 8 years use child restraint or seat belt
  • A driver must ensure that, while the motor vehicle is in motion on a road, every passenger of or over the age of 5 years but under the age of 8 years—
    • (a)is properly restrained by an approved child restraint appropriate for that passenger, if such a restraint is available in the vehicle; or
    • (b)if such a restraint is not available in the vehicle, is restrained as securely as practicable in the circumstances using any child restraint or seat belt that is available (whether or not that child restraint or seat belt is approved).

My interpretation is that while the recommendation is that children under the height of 148cm should be in a child restraint (and children under the age of 5 must be in a restraint); if they are between 5 and 8 they only need to be in a restraint if there is one available in that vehicle.

1223 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 697927 8-Oct-2012 15:16
Send private message

I got pipped at the post about the need to have a car seat (agree with you, you don't need to put them in one if there is not one available), so, don't think he could give you a ticket for that.

On the other hand,

------

LAND TRANSPORT (DRIVER LICENSING) RULE 1999
PART 16 - MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS RELATING TO RESPONSIBILITIES OF DRIVERS

104.Prohibition on display of ``L'' plate except in appropriate circumstances?

A person must not drive, on a road, a motor vehicle that displays an ``L'' plate as specified in clause 66 unless that person?

(a)Holds a learner licence of the class that relates to that vehicle in accordance with Schedule 3; or
(b)Immediately prior to driving has been, or is about to be, accompanying the person in paragraph (a) in accordance with clause 16(1)(a); or
(c)Holds a driving instructor or testing officer endorsement and is driving a vehicle used for purposes connected with that endorsement.
------
Looks like he could have got you for displaying a L plate (assuming you have a full licence).



66 posts

Master Geek


  # 697950 8-Oct-2012 15:33
Send private message

dolsen: I got pipped at the post about the need to have a car seat (agree with you, you don't need to put them in one if there is not one available), so, don't think he could give you a ticket for that.

On the other hand,

------

LAND TRANSPORT (DRIVER LICENSING) RULE 1999
PART 16 - MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS RELATING TO RESPONSIBILITIES OF DRIVERS

104.Prohibition on display of ``L'' plate except in appropriate circumstances?

A person must not drive, on a road, a motor vehicle that displays an ``L'' plate as specified in clause 66 unless that person?

(a)Holds a learner licence of the class that relates to that vehicle in accordance with Schedule 3; or
(b)Immediately prior to driving has been, or is about to be, accompanying the person in paragraph (a) in accordance with clause 16(1)(a); or
(c)Holds a driving instructor or testing officer endorsement and is driving a vehicle used for purposes connected with that endorsement.
------
Looks like he could have got you for displaying a L plate (assuming you have a full licence).


Thanks




66 posts

Master Geek


  # 697952 8-Oct-2012 15:34
Send private message

And thanks all for the replies

 
 
 
 


1711 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 697963 8-Oct-2012 15:51
Send private message

I thought they had changed the rules several years ago, but maybe not. They were talking about requiring booster seats until much older.

Even before they were talking about changing the rules we kept our son in a booster seat as when sitting on the seat with it the seat belt would be at neck level - in a half decent accident that would be a snapped neck rather than serious chest bruising. Which would you prefer?

801 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 697971 8-Oct-2012 16:04
Send private message

The law is changing shortly, taking the age up to 7 years where a child restraint must be used.

Height is a better indication of when a child restraint should be used. It is recommended that children be kept in a child restraint until they are at least 148cm tall.



66 posts

Master Geek


  # 697990 8-Oct-2012 16:30
Send private message

GregV: The law is changing shortly, taking the age up to 7 years where a child restraint must be used.

Height is a better indication of when a child restraint should be used. It is recommended that children be kept in a child restraint until they are at least 148cm tall.


Thanks,Will buy the booster seat today then

801 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 697994 8-Oct-2012 16:41
Send private message

Well worth the investment for your 5-year-old. My 6- and 8-year-old boys still use booster seats.

12 posts

Geek


  # 698038 8-Oct-2012 17:21
Send private message

The kids also look and seem happier in a booster on longer journeys.  We have the full height one.



66 posts

Master Geek


  # 698103 8-Oct-2012 19:43
Send private message



Thanks,I finally decided to buy a new one for my boy

BDFL - Memuneh
65025 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  # 698114 8-Oct-2012 19:56
Send private message

Holy lack of good neighbouhood, Batman.

I resized your 2 Mbytes 900px across image to a more pallatable 57 Kbytes.

PLEASE DO NOT POST GIGANTIC IMAGES OR ACCOUNT WILL BE DISABLED.






66 posts

Master Geek


  # 698124 8-Oct-2012 20:07
Send private message

freitasm: Holy lack of good neighbouhood, Batman.

I resized your 2 Mbytes 900px across image to a more pallatable 57 Kbytes.

PLEASE DO NOT POST GIGANTIC IMAGES OR ACCOUNT WILL BE DISABLED.
I


Oh sorry:)

 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel introduces cryogenic control chip to enable quantum computers
Posted 10-Dec-2019 21:32


Vodafone 5G service live in four cities
Posted 10-Dec-2019 08:30


Samsung Galaxy Fold now available in New Zealand
Posted 6-Dec-2019 00:01


NZ company oDocs awarded US$ 100,000 Dubai World Expo grant
Posted 5-Dec-2019 16:00


New Zealand Rugby Selects AWS-Powered Analytics for Deeper Game Insights
Posted 5-Dec-2019 11:33


IMAGR and Farro bring checkout-less supermarket shopping to New Zealand
Posted 5-Dec-2019 09:07


Wellington Airport becomes first 5G connected airport in the country
Posted 3-Dec-2019 08:42


MetService secures Al Jazeera as a new weather client
Posted 28-Nov-2019 09:40


NZ a top 10 connected nation with stage one of ultra-fast broadband roll-out completed
Posted 24-Nov-2019 14:15


Microsoft Translator understands te reo Māori
Posted 22-Nov-2019 08:46


Chorus to launch Hyperfibre service
Posted 18-Nov-2019 15:00


Microsoft launches first Experience Center worldwide for Asia Pacific in Singapore
Posted 13-Nov-2019 13:08


Disney+ comes to LG Smart TVs
Posted 13-Nov-2019 12:55


Spark launches new wireless broadband "Unplan Metro"
Posted 11-Nov-2019 08:19


Malwarebytes overhauls flagship product with new UI, faster engine and lighter footprint
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:48



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.