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Topic # 148682 27-Jun-2014 08:45
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Here is a stupid question. What does this new road markings actually mean on Hunter Street, Wellington? I've had a look a the Road Code and I can find any thing similar. Does it mean keep your distance from cyclists? Cyclists have right of way? Cyclists must travel in this direction only (it is only a one way street)?

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  Reply # 1075402 27-Jun-2014 08:51
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These are 'Shared Arrows' or Sharrows.
http://wellington.govt.nz/services/parking-and-roads/cycling/cycle-safety/sharrow-road-markings
https://at.govt.nz/projects-roadworks/sharrow-road-marking-trial/


  "The marking - a white bicycle with two arrows above it - is used to indicate where cyclists should ride to be most visible and avoid hazards like car doors.  The mark also provides a reminder to drivers that they should watch out for cyclists and share the road."



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  Reply # 1075424 27-Jun-2014 09:31
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  "The marking - a white bicycle with two arrows above it - is used to indicate where cyclists should ride to be most visible and avoid hazards like car doors.  The mark also provides a reminder to drivers that they should watch out for cyclists and share the road."


Thanks for that. It now makes sense.





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  Reply # 1075426 27-Jun-2014 09:35
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They put them down parts of Pt Chev road here in Auckland.  The cycling bunnies still ride on the sidewalk..




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  Reply # 1075433 27-Jun-2014 09:53
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Hard not to be seen if you're sitting right in the middle of the lane. Not all of these "sharrows" are in restricted speed areas. I'd hope that cyclists get a clue and keep left where appropriate. An obviously empty vehicle isn't going to open any doors. If the Council want to bring down speeds to the slowest users maybe a few sharrows ar right angles with the outline of a pedestrian?

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  Reply # 1075447 27-Jun-2014 10:27
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i saw a pedestrian nearly get bowled by a biker as he stood on the road puzzled at these new gylphs...

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  Reply # 1075480 27-Jun-2014 11:50
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old3eyes: They put them down parts of Pt Chev road here in Auckland.  The cycling bunnies still ride on the sidewalk..


If I was to ride a push bike it wouldn't be on the road.




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  Reply # 1075487 27-Jun-2014 12:01
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TimA:
old3eyes: They put them down parts of Pt Chev road here in Auckland.  The cycling bunnies still ride on the sidewalk..


If I was to ride a push bike it wouldn't be on the road.


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I have no idea why the government are trying to make it safter for cyclists on the road, when they could just travel on the foot-path.  I had no trouble at all doing it as a kid on my way to school every day!

If I traveled on the road, I may not be typing this message right now.





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  Reply # 1075489 27-Jun-2014 12:09
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Looks like the outlines of the last cyclist's bike who got run over there. Is there another outline of a person close by?

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  Reply # 1075496 27-Jun-2014 12:27
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DravidDavid: I have no idea why the government are trying to make it safter for cyclists on the road, when they could just travel on the foot-path.

The downside with using the footpath, is that you lose your right-of-way every time you reach an intersection or side-street, even if you are travelling straight-through.  You even lose this right-of-way to cars coming up behind you, turning off the road.  You'll also catch abuse from pedestrians, as you are now encroaching on 'their space'.  However, after suffering 5 punctures in 3 weeks caused by debris on the roadside, I'm almost willing to give it a go!

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  Reply # 1075498 27-Jun-2014 12:33
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GregV:
DravidDavid: I have no idea why the government are trying to make it safter for cyclists on the road, when they could just travel on the foot-path.

The downside with using the footpath, is that you lose your right-of-way every time you reach an intersection or side-street, even if you are travelling straight-through.  You even lose this right-of-way to cars coming up behind you, turning off the road.  You'll also catch abuse from pedestrians, as you are now encroaching on 'their space'.  However, after suffering 5 punctures in 3 weeks caused by debris on the roadside, I'm almost willing to give it a go!


I'm prepared to sacrifice right of way in exchange for my own space.  I've never suffered any abuse from pedestrians.  I would often get off my bike and walk if I came within 10 meters in order to ensure their safety and make the pedestrian aware that I was aware of them.

The biggest downside is driveways...Driveways can be scary.





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  Reply # 1075499 27-Jun-2014 12:38
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I agree, plenty of upsides to using the footpath (and I agree about the driveways!).  You won't see all people on bikes use it though, as it won't be as fast as the road.

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  Reply # 1075509 27-Jun-2014 13:17
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GregV: I agree, plenty of upsides to using the footpath (and I agree about the driveways!).  You won't see all people on bikes use it though, as it won't be as fast as the road.

Nowhere near as fast for sure...But there are some areas in West Auckland and beyond where I wonder how cyclists survive traveling on the road.  I never really use my bike simply because it is too dangerous.  Auckland drivers aren't getting any better or considerate, in part I'm sure due to the inconsiderate cyclists...It's a vicious cycle. (No pun intended)  I'd take my four walls and metal lump any day of the week!  And I do! :)





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  Reply # 1075511 27-Jun-2014 13:28
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GregV: These are 'Shared Arrows' or Sharrows.
http://wellington.govt.nz/services/parking-and-roads/cycling/cycle-safety/sharrow-road-markings
https://at.govt.nz/projects-roadworks/sharrow-road-marking-trial/


  "The marking - a white bicycle with two arrows above it - is used to indicate where cyclists should ride to be most visible and avoid hazards like car doors.  The mark also provides a reminder to drivers that they should watch out for cyclists and share the road."


Sharrow??! Did they really have to make up a new word?




 



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  Reply # 1075517 27-Jun-2014 13:39
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 Sharrow??! Did they really have to make up a new word?


What's was wrong with Double Chevron??





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  Reply # 1075522 27-Jun-2014 13:49
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This is the name used world-wide, originating in San Fran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_lane_marking

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