Hi, it's amazing what happens when one actually goes to check out a car. Discovered that the Mazda Premacy and the Toyota Wish had really really tight back row of seats!
So the new shape Estimas (2006+) are not exactly cheap
The Presage is a third of the price of the Estimas
MPVs are somewhere in between
Don't care about looks, etc ... but is the cheapest one as reliable as the other 2?
(I know the Presage has really crampy seats in terms of width but it is much better than some others)
Edit: hmm i don't know why I didn't come across any Mitsi Grandises ...