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#185198 13-Nov-2015 14:31

Emirates have taken delivery of 2, two class, Airbus A380-800’s that will allow them to carry 615 passengers

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/73995580/emirates-unveils-new-airbus-a380-ready-to-pack-in-more-passengers

They’ve done it removing first class altogether from these A380’s, so 58 business class lay flats upstairs and 557 economy seats downstairs.

This is an increase of 100 passengers over a normally equipped 3 class A380 (First, Business and Economy).

2 things immediately come to mind about this…

How bad it would be if you were one of the first passengers on, you’d be sitting for ages in economy while they loaded up
I bet on the lower deck, even though they’ve added 100 seats, there aren’t any extra toilets.

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#1427582 13-Nov-2015 14:41

Yeah, the lack of bathroom facilities is the tough bit on long-haul flights.

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#1427618 13-Nov-2015 15:32

I read somewhere that the 380 is certified for over 800 pax!

Imagine that flight...!

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#1427659 13-Nov-2015 16:26

Easy get 800 in standing!

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#1427786 13-Nov-2015 22:56

If it makes airfares cheaper then people won't mind. And those who do mind can always travel on a different airline.

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#1427796 14-Nov-2015 00:03

Aredwood: If it makes airfares cheaper then people won't mind. And those who do mind can always travel on a different airline.

I'd rather that they increased PE as a product. I am happy to pay SOME more for wider seat, better food etc but not the barking insanity of BC fares to say London.

Long haul Economy has become an endurance test now.

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#1427803 14-Nov-2015 00:26

Cattle class on Emirates A380 is actually quite comfortable. Nice big screens on the entertainment system, USB charging. Better pitch and wider seats than their competitors (as far as I know), and the food is actually good enough that I would come back to eat it at a restaurant. Usually I am happy if the food is eatable on a cattle class flight.

Will be flying them again next time I am going to Europe.

The current A380s have about 489 - 517 seats.

Here are the versions:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emirates_Airlines/Emirates_Airlines_Airbus_A380.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emirates_Airlines/Emirates_Airlines_Airbus_A380_B.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emirates_Airlines/Emirates_Airlines_Airbus_A380_Two_Class.php

Last one is the new 2 class version. They are getting that many more seats by using first class and part of business class for economy seats on the top floor.

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#1430688 18-Nov-2015 21:18

Good lord, imagine if Jetstar (or, heaven forbid, RyanAir) got a 789!

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#1430763 18-Nov-2015 23:06

jarledb: Cattle class on Emirates A380 is actually quite comfortable. Nice big screens on the entertainment system, USB charging. Better pitch and wider seats than their competitors (as far as I know), and the food is actually good enough that I would come back to eat it at a restaurant. Usually I am happy if the food is eatable on a cattle class flight.

I flew Emirates to London last year and have never, ever, been so uncomfortable on a plane in my life. Admittedly it was mainly on the ghastly 777 but lord I thought I would be crippled for life after that flight.

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#1430767 18-Nov-2015 23:18

Some of the old 777s have their entertainment systems computers placed under some seats. Was placed on one of them (and sitting in a seat where I had one of those in front of me) when flying from Oslo to Dubai this time. Luckily it was a half empty flight, so found some good Exit row seats with lots of space.

They really should move those boxes or get new entertainment systems on those flights.

But I thought we were talking about the A380, no problem with those kinds of things there on any I have been on so far. (Limited to a few flights on Emirates and a couple on Lufthansa's)

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#1430913 19-Nov-2015 08:48

Interestingly Emirates seems to be the only airline really pushing ahead with the A380. With others such as Singapore, Thai, Malaysian looking to exit or at least downsize their 380 fleets. And others like QANTAS finding it difficult to make it pay. The price of second hand A380s and also their lease rates have headed south. That will really give EK the whip hand over Airbus.

From my experience First Class was generally for UAE locals and some staff and families (pilots mainly), business class for expats, and cattle class for the labourers. Unless you are trans Tasman in which case seat dumping means you can sit anywhere. So losing First isn't that great a sacrifice.

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#1430943 19-Nov-2015 09:41

jarledb: Some of the old 777s have their entertainment systems computers placed under some seats. Was placed on one of them (and sitting in a seat where I had one of those in front of me) when flying from Oslo to Dubai this time. Luckily it was a half empty flight, so found some good Exit row seats with lots of space.

They really should move those boxes or get new entertainment systems on those flights.

But I thought we were talking about the A380, no problem with those kinds of things there on any I have been on so far. (Limited to a few flights on Emirates and a couple on Lufthansa's)

It was actually the seat cushion: my backside was in agony and every time I shifted to move the pressure point my wife said I looked like I had been stabbed!

Given the availability of modern foams like Tempur etc, surely comfortable seats ought not to be too hard to create regardless of class of cabin.