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#207611 4-Jan-2017 23:44

"A speed camera believed to be the most lucrative in the UK has raked in £1.5m in fines in just six months, raising as much revenue as a "successful medium-sized business".

A camera on the North Circular Road in London was responsible for around a third of all speeding tickets issued in the capital, according to figures released by the Metropolitan Police.

It caught motorists breaking a temporary 30mph speed limit on a stretch of dual carriageway in Ealing. Most of the North Circular has a 40mph or 50mph limit. "

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#1698658 5-Jan-2017 00:47

Police are not hard on speeders at all, most drivers that I have come across speed, around the 90% figure. People seem to think the temporary speed signs are just for show as well, especially in Northland, it's particularly lawless up there.

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#1698659 5-Jan-2017 00:47

I'm not surprised.... I didn't find the speed limit signs in the UK to be particularly abundant. Thankfully I don't regularly drive here.

I agree about the sentiment though, a camera that raises significantly more fines than others should really be looked at. There is clearly a problem here...

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#1698662 5-Jan-2017 01:47

The fines at least aren't bad..

I got a ticket in Auckland doing 77 in a 50 zone (Genuinely thought I was still in the 80 zone coming around the bottom of Whenuapai). Cost me $230, but that was all (no points as I only have AU licence).

Had I done the same here in VIC, AU the fine would have been $417 and a 1 month automatic licence suspension. Glad I made this mistake in NZ not AU.

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#1698734 5-Jan-2017 09:37

lNomNoml:

Police are not hard on speeders at all, most drivers that I have come across speed, around the 90% figure. People seem to think the temporary speed signs are just for show as well, especially in Northland, it's particularly lawless up there.

When the road sign says 30kph I do 30kph. Aside from being safer road workers they are usually also trying to help me avoid damaging my vehicle by throwing up thousands of pieces of tar-coated quarterchip at high speed and stripping the paint off the runners under my car doors......and also to avoid other vehicles throwing stones at each other, in both directions. I've had two windscreens replaced in the past 12 months already due to stones being thrown off the tops of truck tyres by oncoming vehicles speeding through roadworks.

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#1698735 5-Jan-2017 09:38

ajobbins:

The fines at least aren't bad..

I got a ticket in Auckland doing 77 in a 50 zone (Genuinely thought I was still in the 80 zone coming around the bottom of Whenuapai). Cost me $230, but that was all (no points as I only have AU licence).

Had I done the same here in VIC, AU the fine would have been $417 and a 1 month automatic licence suspension. Glad I made this mistake in NZ not AU.

If it's a speed camera, you can't lose points because they can't prove who the driver was. But if they pulled you over......yeah. That should have been 10 points as you were more than 15kph over.

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#1698757 5-Jan-2017 10:40

Linuxluver:

lNomNoml:

Police are not hard on speeders at all, most drivers that I have come across speed, around the 90% figure. People seem to think the temporary speed signs are just for show as well, especially in Northland, it's particularly lawless up there.

When the road sign says 30kph I do 30kph. Aside from being safer road workers they are usually also trying to help me avoid damaging my vehicle by throwing up thousands of pieces of tar-coated quarterchip at high speed and stripping the paint off the runners under my car doors......and also to avoid other vehicles throwing stones at each other, in both directions. I've had two windscreens replaced in the past 12 months already due to stones being thrown off the tops of truck tyres by oncoming vehicles speeding through roadworks.

I hear you. I have had more glass claims in the 12 years I have been here than in my whole life in the UK and my wife's, combined!

It's a real shame you cannot sue councils and roading contractors here for the damage they cause to your property by their incompetence.

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#1698758 5-Jan-2017 10:41

Linuxluver:

ajobbins:

The fines at least aren't bad..

I got a ticket in Auckland doing 77 in a 50 zone (Genuinely thought I was still in the 80 zone coming around the bottom of Whenuapai). Cost me $230, but that was all (no points as I only have AU licence).

Had I done the same here in VIC, AU the fine would have been $417 and a 1 month automatic licence suspension. Glad I made this mistake in NZ not AU.

If it's a speed camera, you can't lose points because they can't prove who the driver was. But if they pulled you over......yeah. That should have been 10 points as you were more than 15kph over.

You will get points in the UK for camera offences though.

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#1698774 5-Jan-2017 11:03

Linuxluver:

If it's a speed camera, you can't lose points because they can't prove who the driver was. But if they pulled you over......yeah. That should have been 10 points as you were more than 15kph over.

In Australia it's assumed it the registered owner of the car who was driving unless that owner nominates another person as the driver and that other person agrees that they were driving.
So somebody is going to get points and the fine every time a speed camera goes off.

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#1698794 5-Jan-2017 11:22

Drive to work on SH16 today I saw 3 police cars running speed traps.

One just coming up the hill towards the Brighams Creek roundabout before the motorway in an 80K Zone

Second one was just under the Te Atatu bridge as the road drops from 100 -> 80

Third was between St Lukes and Newton off ramps just before speed goes backup from 80->100

All of these are easy zones to catch people just over the limit either due to the hill or due to a nearby change in speed limit.

I've found I now use my Cruise Control on SH16 to avoid speeding in the 80K zones, which usually results in a lot of irate people overtaking me at 90-100+ as they ignore the temporary limits. I really can't understand why some of the motorway hasn't been put back upto 100 yet.

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#1698820 5-Jan-2017 12:56

What I find frustrating is that the placement of temporary speed restrictions, particularly on the open road, seems very inconsistent.

If re-surfacing is going on, and drivers need to go over an unsealed section with machinery and workers adjacent then 30kph is very much appropriate.

If there is a bit of digging to be done 3 metres from the edge of the road, the contractor didn't quite get the job done at 4 pm on a Friday and needs to come back on the Monday to finish it, then leaving a 200 metre stretch restricted to 30 all through the weekend is just a big pain in the....

PS. Note to Wellington contractors. It gets windy here. You may need more than a couple of sandbags to stop your signs from blowing over.

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#1698826 5-Jan-2017 13:12

Linuxluver:

lNomNoml:

Police are not hard on speeders at all, most drivers that I have come across speed, around the 90% figure. People seem to think the temporary speed signs are just for show as well, especially in Northland, it's particularly lawless up there.

When the road sign says 30kph I do 30kph. Aside from being safer road workers they are usually also trying to help me avoid damaging my vehicle by throwing up thousands of pieces of tar-coated quarterchip at high speed and stripping the paint off the runners under my car doors......and also to avoid other vehicles throwing stones at each other, in both directions. I've had two windscreens replaced in the past 12 months already due to stones being thrown off the tops of truck tyres by oncoming vehicles speeding through roadworks.

I've already had to replace my 6 month old Swift's windscreen due to road works on the way to Whangarei from Auckland....it's extremely frustrating seeing how poor the roads are in NZ in general, I would go so far as to say the roads in South Africa are better.

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#1698838 5-Jan-2017 13:32

Yeah but when I stop at a red light in NZ I can be pretty sure I will live until it turns green 😊

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#1698843 5-Jan-2017 13:40

"And we think we are hard on speeders in NZ." a bit of an overly dramatic heading. I was expecting to see a story about speeders being publicly flogged or having hands removed.

Do you work for Stuff? :)

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#1698939 5-Jan-2017 17:01

elpenguino: Yeah but when I stop at a red light in NZ I can be pretty sure I will live until it turns green 😊

Good point.

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#1698944 5-Jan-2017 17:29

djtOtago:

"And we think we are hard on speeders in NZ." a bit of an overly dramatic heading. I was expecting to see a story about speeders being publicly flogged or having hands removed.

Do you work for Stuff? :)

No, I just self-moderated my anti-speeding measures...! I find people generally think that sort of thing is too harsh for some reason.

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