Stockholm ambulances to trial blocking drivers' music so sirens can be heard

Forums › Transport (cars, bikes and boats) › Stockholm ambulances to trial blocking drivers' music so sirens can be heard

Geektastic

18009 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 8465

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#207911 18-Jan-2017 22:55

Ambulances and fire engines have been given the power to stop music playing in nearby cars in Sweden so that their warning sirens can be heard.

The new alert system overrides loud music and bypasses sound-proofed car insulation so drivers will never be caught off guard by an approaching emergency vehicle. It uses the FM radio signal to jam drivers' speakers and send a voice alert that an ambulance is approaching.

Created by 23-year-old students at the KTH Royal Institute of Technology, the Evam System is being trialled in public and privately owned ambulances and fire engines in Stockholm, with plans to expand across the country later this year.

See here

Clever stuff - do you think we should consider it?

1 | 2 | 3

7345 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2117

ID Verified

#1705539 18-Jan-2017 23:06

Heck yeah.

Even today I processed a dashcam vid of a moron that practically only pulled over once the Ambo had past despite me flashing my lights and waving my hand out the window gesturing to move over.

vexxxboy

4336 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2072

#1705540 18-Jan-2017 23:06

never listen to the radio in my car

Common sense is not as common as you think.

cisconz

cisconz
1348 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 179

ID Verified

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#1705543 18-Jan-2017 23:23

vexxxboy:

never listen to the radio in my car

Then you will hear the siren

Hmmmm

MadEngineer

4591 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2570

Trusted

#1705546 18-Jan-2017 23:41

I've been guilty of not noticing an emergency vehicle in my rear view once before

I was following a truck with loose gravel that was dropping splatters on the road which was taking up more than the usual amount of my focus mind you.

You're not on Atlantis anymore, Duncan Idaho.

Aredwood

3885 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1749

#1705560 19-Jan-2017 01:30

Article claims it would also work when using Bluetooth or an Aux cable. Yet doesn't say how it would still work when the cars FM tuner is not in use. And would it work on cars that have Jap radios?

dickytim

2514 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 537
Inactive user

#1705569 19-Jan-2017 06:12

I was on a P1 under lights with my fiancé on Monday and no one would let us in! It was less about being heard or seen, just people not willing to let us cross.

I did wonder if those people thought, what if it is my partner, friend or child they are going to help?

This system would be awesome!

Apple TV

Stream your favourite shows now on Apple TV (affiliate link).

traderstu

334 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 113

#1705600 19-Jan-2017 07:12

Yes, very clever. I wonder if this tech could be incorporated on railway level crossings. I'm sure that a lot of these accidents are the result of people failing to see the lights/hear the bells.

sbiddle

30853 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9996

Retired Mod

Trusted

Biddle Corp

Lifetime subscriber

#1705601 19-Jan-2017 07:14

Aredwood:

Article claims it would also work when using Bluetooth or an Aux cable. Yet doesn't say how it would still work when the cars FM tuner is not in use. And would it work on cars that have Jap radios?

One assumes the Sweden trial could simply use RDS and the TA flag with a local FM transmitter in the ambulance. The same sort of thing could work here but obviously would have major limitations due to the huge number of old vehicles and jap imports that don't have RDS.

Unlike all of Europe nobody here uses TA announcements, and the only time somebody trialled it (ZM in Auckland) they pulled it due to complaints and a poorly written NZ Herald story that didn't understand RDS or the TA system and focussed on people saying their car radio was being hijacked by ZM.

coffeebaron

6304 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3566

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#1705602 19-Jan-2017 07:22

Perhaps they should implement SWS for radar detectors first.

Rural IT and Broadband support.

Broadband troubleshooting and master filter installs.
Starlink installer - one month free: https://www.starlink.com/?referral=RC-32845-88860-71
Wi-Fi and networking
Cel-Fi supply and installer - boost your mobile phone coverage legally

Need help in Auckland, Waikato or BoP? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com

dickytim

2514 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 537
Inactive user

#1705603 19-Jan-2017 07:23

sbiddle:

Aredwood:

Article claims it would also work when using Bluetooth or an Aux cable. Yet doesn't say how it would still work when the cars FM tuner is not in use. And would it work on cars that have Jap radios?

One assumes the Sweden trial could simply use RDS and the TA flag with a local FM transmitter in the ambulance. The same sort of thing could work here but obviously would have major limitations due to the huge number of old vehicles and jap imports that don't have RDS.

Unlike all of Europe nobody here uses TA announcements, and the only time somebody trialled it (ZM in Auckland) they pulled it due to complaints and a poorly written NZ Herald story that didn't understand RDS or the TA system and focussed on people saying their car radio was being hijacked by ZM.

OMG the Herald wrote a poor article with a lack of facts??? Was this reported to them?

richms

29098 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10209

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#1705604 19-Jan-2017 07:26

I dont even have the antenna power connected in my car since the stupid stereo puts it up even when its on bluetooth or aux in. I dont really see this working here.

Richard rich.ms

New World

Shop on-line at New World now for your groceries (affiliate link).

vexxxboy

4336 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2072

#1705606 19-Jan-2017 07:40

cisconz:

vexxxboy:

never listen to the radio in my car

Then you will hear the siren

sorry but i have dvd's full of my music and still play them loud at my age.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

knoydart

904 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 154

Trusted

#1705608 19-Jan-2017 07:41

Licensing a system like this is difficult without new legislation here, you cant just simply add it to ambulances and interfere with existing broadcaster's services.

We did have one manufacture wanting to fit this kind of system to a helicopter, so they could fly over a certain area and interrupt peoples days or warn of a traffic crash ahead. I think it was Tsunado but a) their website seems to be lacking in content and b) they use to be pushing for the RDS type solution with dedicated receiver.

Edit: Grammar

PaulBags

809 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 184
Inactive user

#1705612 19-Jan-2017 07:48

Driverless vehicles will be the way to go, they'll know the intended route of emergancy vehicles and pull over accordingly.

This might grab morons attention, maybe it'll work in Sweden, but I never see anyone here (Christchurch) pull over nice and early. It's like they don't bother until the flashing lights are too annoying reflecting off of their mirror, by which point I would have thought even deaf people would've checked their mirror once or twice. I always thought people don't know and/or care, not that they can't hear the siren or see the lights.

sbiddle

30853 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9996

Retired Mod

Trusted

Biddle Corp

Lifetime subscriber

#1705613 19-Jan-2017 07:52

Here's the NZ Herald story http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3535651

No idea why they didn't simply ask "Peter" why he wasn't smart enough to simply turn TA off on his radio.

1 | 2 | 3