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#222797 28-Aug-2017 22:22
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Just renewed our two regos. My 2009 Lancer Hatch was pretty much the same as last year at $79 ish but, interestingly, my wife's 2012 Swift went from $87 to $118. 

 

Are the hoons buying Swifts???


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  #1854494 29-Aug-2017 05:00
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i found both our cars went down again from last year when we recently renewed




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  #1854498 29-Aug-2017 06:07
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it is about the safety rating of the car, these seem to change over time, also I think they stuffed some up originally.

 

Think about the poor Australian's who pay $5-600+ a year!


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  #1854501 29-Aug-2017 06:38
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dickytim:

 

it is about the safety rating of the car, these seem to change over time, also I think they stuffed some up originally.

 

Think about the poor Australian's who pay $5-600+ a year!

 

 

Think about the poor NZ motorcyclists who pay $528.63 a year!




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  #1854508 29-Aug-2017 07:16
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tdgeek:

 

dickytim:

 

it is about the safety rating of the car, these seem to change over time, also I think they stuffed some up originally.

 

Think about the poor Australian's who pay $5-600+ a year!

 

 

Think about the poor NZ motorcyclists who pay $528.63 a year!

 

 

 

 

I paid a full years rego on a bike of mine @ $650 before it went down and it was only 400cc!

 


Was $45 for my 199 BMW to get 6 months Reg the other week. 
Seems to hold up in a crash!


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  #1854522 29-Aug-2017 08:11
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Yea, glad I am not a motorcyclist.


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  #1854530 29-Aug-2017 08:26
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linw:

 

Yea, glad I am not a motorcyclist.

 

 

so is my family





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  #1854532 29-Aug-2017 08:27
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linw:

Just renewed our two regos. My 2009 Lancer Hatch was pretty much the same as last year at $79 ish but, interestingly, my wife's 2012 Swift went from $87 to $118. 


Are the hoons buying Swifts???



Get the rating checked, there has been errors in the past where car models have been incorrectly rated.

 
 
 

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  #1854546 29-Aug-2017 09:09
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MikeB4:
linw:

 

Just renewed our two regos. My 2009 Lancer Hatch was pretty much the same as last year at $79 ish but, interestingly, my wife's 2012 Swift went from $87 to $118. 

 

 

 

Are the hoons buying Swifts???

 



Get the rating checked, there has been errors in the past where car models have been incorrectly rated.


Well my car had a star wiped and is now 1 star lol. Would that affect it?
Seen these things hold up 10x better in crashes than brand new japs with 5 stars!


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  #1854569 29-Aug-2017 09:35
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Coil:

 

MikeB4:
linw:

 

Just renewed our two regos. My 2009 Lancer Hatch was pretty much the same as last year at $79 ish but, interestingly, my wife's 2012 Swift went from $87 to $118. 

 

 

 

Are the hoons buying Swifts???

 



Get the rating checked, there has been errors in the past where car models have been incorrectly rated.


Well my car had a star wiped and is now 1 star lol. Would that affect it?
Seen these things hold up 10x better in crashes than brand new japs with 5 stars!

 

 

 

 

their formula is somewhat odd


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  #1854613 29-Aug-2017 10:39
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Coil:

 

MikeB4:
linw:

 

Just renewed our two regos. My 2009 Lancer Hatch was pretty much the same as last year at $79 ish but, interestingly, my wife's 2012 Swift went from $87 to $118. 

 

 

 

Are the hoons buying Swifts???

 



Get the rating checked, there has been errors in the past where car models have been incorrectly rated.


Well my car had a star wiped and is now 1 star lol. Would that affect it?
Seen these things hold up 10x better in crashes than brand new japs with 5 stars!

 

 

It's not about how well the car stands up to an impact but rather the occupants.


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  #1854645 29-Aug-2017 11:23
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I think it's a reasonable system.  If my memory of the documentation is correct it's based on fatality and injury rates for Australia and NZ for different types of car.  For both our cars the licensing fees have gone down considerably. 

 

One criticism of the system is that it contains an in-equity: people on lower incomes often buy older cars so they will pay higher licensing than people on higher incomes. But that may even out via the earner levies.





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  #1854647 29-Aug-2017 11:26
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$80.01 to get another 12 months on my 2014 Mazda 3; which seems to be cheaper than last year 

 

Rate 4N if my quick glance at the paperwork was retained in memory


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Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation



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  #1854672 29-Aug-2017 11:53
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cadman:

 

Coil:

 

MikeB4:
linw:

 

Just renewed our two regos. My 2009 Lancer Hatch was pretty much the same as last year at $79 ish but, interestingly, my wife's 2012 Swift went from $87 to $118. 

 

 

 

Are the hoons buying Swifts???

 



Get the rating checked, there has been errors in the past where car models have been incorrectly rated.


Well my car had a star wiped and is now 1 star lol. Would that affect it?
Seen these things hold up 10x better in crashes than brand new japs with 5 stars!

 

 

It's not about how well the car stands up to an impact but rather the occupants.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I see the report shows the expected occupant injury in certain crashes, Just appeared frontal was bad from the steering wheel column coming forward and the A pillar bending lol.
So if a star is wiped or maybe 2 stars, would that affect the next re run of rego pricing?

 

Edit: My euro Ncap 1 star car is in band 3, Why thank you ACC.

 


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  #1854725 29-Aug-2017 12:33
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There are 4 elements to the rating, including real world crash data,  depending what information is available. It's not just the ANCAP/NCAP results...

 

 The claim that "solid" cars protect occupants better is a long debunked myth.  Crumple zones and active safety systems do a much better job.    

 

 

 

To calculate risk ratings for each vehicle, we use one of four methods.

 

Total Secondary Safety Index – TSSI (T)

 

We first look at real world crash data using TSSI. This shows the risk of injury by stripping away some factors in a crash (such as alcohol and adverse weather) to measure how a vehicle protects its passengers and others on the road if it’s involved in a crash.

 

New Car Assessment Programme – NCAP (N)

 

If we don’t have enough TSSI crash data, we use recent NCAP star ratings. An NCAP star rating is based on a series of vehicle tests designed and carried out by various international New Car Assessment Programmes, eg ANCAP, EURO NCAP, NCAP and JNCAP.

 

Market group (M)

 

If there’s still not enough TSSI data or a recent NCAP rating we’ll use market groupings. Vehicles are grouped together based on similarities of their type, size and other specifications.

 

Default (D)

 

If we can’t use any of the above methods, a risk rating band is assigned based on the year the vehicle was first registered.

 

 

 

 

So yes, if there is an increase of crashes with XXXX vehicle that results in passenger injuries, there is a chance the vehicle could change its allocated rate.  

 

 





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