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Topic # 225397 16-Nov-2017 15:29
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Close to buying new or close to new station wagon after ruling out SUV, was keen on kodiaq but low availability and no deals mean full price buy which meant  irresponsible spend (I am cash buyer)  I like both vrs and scout but read about firmer, stiffer drive of vrs which is not good for touring but in general just thought of getting users opinion.

 

others considered Subaru outback (seems too big in length) and more fuel consumption

 

Mazda6 - good but somehow find it boring and length is also like outback

 

Legacy - only old versions now but new levorg has a look of boy racer car... not for me or my age.

 

so it will be great to hear from some who can, its a decent spend and want to get this close to right, it will never be perfect score though.


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  Reply # 1902783 16-Nov-2017 15:37
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If you go for an Octavia RS, don't get the 19" wheel option - they make the ride too unpleasant. I'm on my 2nd RS (a 2008 and 2014) and have done close to 300k km combined between them. Love them both.  Have never driven a Scout, I would say the two are quite different, so you really should go and drive each of them and see which suits you better.

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1902803 16-Nov-2017 16:34
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No big concern. I own a Scout and when I would be limited to one single car (we have 3), I'd clearly go with the Scout. It's used for a lot of duties including hunting as well as for travelling. No need for more horse power (regardless of the absence of a general speed limit here(!) on highways).


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1902851 16-Nov-2017 17:03
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Paging @nate


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  Reply # 1902853 16-Nov-2017 17:10
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Get the vRS. I upgraded 12 months ago from the base model, and mine goes like the devil.  I also have the 19" wheels and don't find the ride uncomfortable. Just did a trip to Cambridge and back on the weekend and it really does fly.

 

 

Planning to get rid of mine in the new year to upgrade again. DM if in Auckland, I could take you for a blat if you want.




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  Reply # 1902920 16-Nov-2017 20:20
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Thanks Nate, I will take test drive of both to get a feel and decide, I was looking at Petrol model though as I did take superb diesel 140kw for drive and felt the lag, its great once power hits but I just prefer smooth acceleration from stop. 


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  Reply # 1902934 16-Nov-2017 20:46
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Have a new 110kw scout due been on order for months 

 

we are reaplacing a 2000 3 litre outback but the new one has grown so much in size

 

and the scout is a much more similar size to the old one

 

looking forward to the scout arriving but is still a few more weeks away

 

note I have a golf Gti and a bike for fun


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  Reply # 1902963 16-Nov-2017 20:59
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I had a 1.8 turbo petrol for a year or so.

 

Fast car for its category... the turbo was clearly wound right the way up. Traction off the line was a major issue, solved when I test drove the 2.0 turbo diesel as there was more weight over the front wheels.

 

Having said that, the in-car entertainment system was completely lacking in my opinion... dialling out from the phone couldn't be done handsfree unless it was a 'favourite' or a 'recently dialled' number. I miss the heated wing mirrors and light sensing rear vision mirror. But the new Mazda's offer far more creature comforts than the Skoda's.

 

I received an invite to a Skoda custom evening today, but as they tried their hardest not to talk to me the last 3 times I was on their yard, I won't be going. Will I look at Skoda again when I change my car in about a years time? Probably... but they seem to be trying to push their prices up and up without really catching up with some of the other tech available IMHO.


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  Reply # 1903133 17-Nov-2017 09:33
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Dunnersfella:

 

 

 

Having said that, the in-car entertainment system was completely lacking in my opinion... dialling out from the phone couldn't be done handsfree unless it was a 'favourite' or a 'recently dialled' number. I miss the heated wing mirrors and light sensing rear vision mirror. But the new Mazda's offer far more creature comforts than the Skoda's.

 

 

Are you sure your Mazda doesn't have heated wing mirrors? I could be wrong but I think most, if not all, of the current generation Mazdas have heated wing mirrors which are activated with the rear demister - check your handbook.


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  Reply # 1903185 17-Nov-2017 12:01
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alasta:

 

 

 

Are you sure your Mazda doesn't have heated wing mirrors? I could be wrong but I think most, if not all, of the current generation Mazdas have heated wing mirrors which are activated with the rear demister - check your handbook.

 

 

We looked very recently at the Mazda 3 hatch and Mazda 6 wagon, and only the Limited trims had heated mirrors.

 

 

 

As to the OPs question, not an owner but currently looking at wagons myself so been test driving a few. The Octavia RS petrol isn't available in 4WD/AWD as far as I was told (seems you have to go diesel for that), where the Scout is 4WD and with slightly greater ground clearance (but is less sporty as a tradeoff). Depending on your use cases, these may or may not factor in. I note you haven't mentioned the standard Octavia wagon, which makes me wonder what features/specs you're particularly after? 





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  Reply # 1903790 18-Nov-2017 18:14
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The answers can't be more precise as the question is. I only wonder why a car with 184 HPs and 4WD (already easily going > 200kph) is compared with a RS with 230 HPs when you are chained to just 100 kph (except if you ignore speed control). But if acceleration is the only fun and freedom left, I understand why more and more people opt at least for a single, overpowered, racing family space waggon. wink


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  Reply # 1903824 18-Nov-2017 20:16
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Top speed is irrelevant really - it's the acceleration up to ~140kph, plus handling that makes it fun to drive.

 

I'd never heard of the Levorg before but it looks very nice - same engine as my current car but with a turbo :)


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  Reply # 1903828 18-Nov-2017 20:36
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shk292:

 

Top speed is irrelevant really - ...

 

Not in Germany on the 'Autobahn' ... wink (no general limit, only when traffic signs show it). It's up to your own responsibility to apply for a Darwin award driving the whole family occupied RS space wagon at top speed.

 

 

 

(I already mentioned two more cars in the garage before, each for it's own specific purpose. One nice cabriolet for 'acceleration & speed' experience and one real, very basic 4x4 nonfunnyuselessAWDoverweightedSUVgimmick)).




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  Reply # 1903829 18-Nov-2017 20:41
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One more thing I forgot and important now what sort of mileage you get fron vrs or scout for those who already used these before

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  Reply # 1904967 21-Nov-2017 08:09
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I have an 09 Octavia RS TDI. Love it to bits. 

 

I dont notice the lag in mine but perhaps its worse in the newer high power models. 

 

I recently had a 2016 Octavia Diesel loan car when mine was in for a service. One thing i noted with the base spec model is the seats are terrible compared to the RS. 

 

Handling is great, went for a trip to kawhia on the weekend and having the RS on the windy roads is worth it. 

 

I get around 800-900 per tank and that is with mostly light Auckland traffic driving. 

 

 




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  Reply # 1904989 21-Nov-2017 09:05
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Thanks for detailed info, really helps in making decision, and no spare parts or excessive service cost issue? I am in Auckland too so driving conditions will be same for me:)

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