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Topic # 229092 7-Feb-2018 15:02
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Hi. 

 

Last year, from CHCH we bought a second hand 2015 Audi A4. 

 

Late last year, a guy who works for a tyre company who walks our dog noticed the tyres had really bad cracking in the middle of them. 

 

I contacted Bridgestone who sent a tech around, confirmed they weren't a manufacturing fault, not specifically a safety issue, but noted they would require careful monitoring and they would need to be replaced within 12 months. 

 

He also noted the date on the tyres were early 2013 but the car was a late 2015 model. He said the reason for the cracking was very likely incorrect storage, either at very high temps or very low. 

 

I contacted the dealer, who predictably wants nothing to do with it, stating it passed both a compliance and WOF and that's his responsibility ended. 

 

My argument is that no-one expects to purchase a 2015 car and have 2013 tyres on it, and having done 16,000 KM, expect to need to replace them.

 

Thoughts?

 

 


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  Reply # 1952963 7-Feb-2018 15:06
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networkn:

 

My argument is that no-one expects to purchase a 2015 car and have 2013 tyres on it.

 

 

Maybe not on a brand new car, but 2nd hand....


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  Reply # 1952964 7-Feb-2018 15:06
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Import or NZ New?





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  Reply # 1952965 7-Feb-2018 15:07
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Import or NZ New?

 

 

Import.

 

 




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  Reply # 1952967 7-Feb-2018 15:07
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gehenna:

 

networkn:

 

My argument is that no-one expects to purchase a 2015 car and have 2013 tyres on it.

 

 

Maybe not on a brand new car, but 2nd hand....

 

 

Really? I've never seen that before. I wouldn't have bought the car with that knowledge. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1952968 7-Feb-2018 15:10
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Did the dealer explicitly say they put those tyres on the car in NZ ? or did he import them that way (presumably from Japan) ?

 

Plenty of cars come off the boats from Japan with old snow tyres on them that are no longer soft enough for snow use in Japan and are being thrown out,  but they have plenty of tread that allows them to comply with a NZ WOF- but are really not safe for NZ road conditions.....

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1952969 7-Feb-2018 15:12
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Did the dealer explicitly say they put those tyres on the car in NZ ? or did he import them that way (presumably from Japan) ?

 

Plenty of cars come off the boats from Japan with old snow tyres on them that are no longer soft enough for snow use in Japan and are being thrown out,  but they have plenty of tread that allows them to comply with a NZ WOF- but are really not safe for NZ road conditions.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

They didn't explicity state anything. When I asked him the state of the tyres, he said they were good as gold, or something similar. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1953048 7-Feb-2018 15:45
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Let the buyer beware. When you buy a second hand car you can't expect the tyres will be original.

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  Reply # 1953055 7-Feb-2018 15:54
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networkn: [snip]

 

My argument is that no-one expects to purchase a 2015 car and have 2013 tyres on it, and having done 16,000 KM, expect to need to replace them.

 

 

That's probably the best point you have. A set of car tyres could reasonably be expected to last for much longer than 16,000km - of course making some basic assumptions (!) regarding where they've been used, and the general condition of the car, like wheel alignment etc. If there's no reason from your side (wheel alignment, doing burnouts, off roading etc.) that would contribute to the tyres being unfit for use in 16,000km then it may be worth pursuing under CGA.


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  Reply # 1953119 7-Feb-2018 16:29
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I think selling a 3 year old car with 5 year old tyres is pretty cheeky.  I wouldn't expect it either.

 

The car dealer could however argue that the tyres are date marked so the info was available ...





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  Reply # 1953123 7-Feb-2018 16:35
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I think selling a 3 year old car with 5 year old tyres is pretty cheeky.  I wouldn't expect it either.

 

The car dealer could however argue that the tyres are date marked so the info was available ...

 

 

Photos provided didn't show that. 


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  Reply # 1953146 7-Feb-2018 17:17
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networkn:

 

MikeAqua:

 

I think selling a 3 year old car with 5 year old tyres is pretty cheeky.  I wouldn't expect it either.

 

The car dealer could however argue that the tyres are date marked so the info was available ...

 

 

Photos provided didn't show that. 

 

 

Good point, but the dealer might argue you could have physically inspected the vehicle, but chose not to.  Photos are not exhaustive blah blah

 

 





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  Reply # 1953150 7-Feb-2018 17:25
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It would be quite possible for a 2015 car to come with new tyres manufactured 2 years prior to fitting. Once you learn to read the date codes it's an eye opener. Apparently they are good for about 7 years from manufacture if they are stored correctly. As noted by your tyre guy dog walker, they must have been stored incorrectly to be failing so soon.

 

 

 

 








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  Reply # 1953156 7-Feb-2018 17:44
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As a used import, it probably came in with winter tyres and they were too worn to comply (4mm minimum tread depth) so they slapped on some secondhand cheapies.





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  Reply # 1953176 7-Feb-2018 18:16
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As long as the tyres are up to warrant standard and if you did not pick up any issues when you accepted ownership then the dealer is not obliged to do any more. If I buy a second hand vehicle I always expect to replace the tyres with ones that suit my driving (where and how I drive) within the first year, same thing with the battery. Granted a 2015 car is late model and one might expect the tyres to be a bit better, but imported 2nd hand is not equal to NZ new second hand or new. That's one of the trade off's with imports.


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gehenna:

 

networkn:

 

My argument is that no-one expects to purchase a 2015 car and have 2013 tyres on it.

 

 

Maybe not on a brand new car, but 2nd hand....

 

 

agreed, it does not matter that the car is 2015 or 2018 with a 2013 tyres because:

 

1. it is an imported car

 

2. the tyres meet the WOF requirement






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