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#233285 8-Apr-2018 21:47

My wife is thinking she needs a new car, so we were having a look at a few options on the internet.

I was quite surprised at some of the price differentials which I found. For example, I found an almost new ex-demo very high spec Mercedes station wagon for about $48,000 and then a few moments later, a Hyundai Santa Fe for $83,000 new.

I have no experience of Hyundai, but $83,000 for a Santa Fe seemed to be a vast sum of money for one.

Are they actually that good?

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#1991732 8-Apr-2018 22:31

Hyundai are very good vehicles with very dealerr backing. They are well put together and very reliable. Mercedes on the other hand has woeful reliability and terrible backing.

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#1991745 8-Apr-2018 23:50

The ex demo will probably soon be last year's model. As most car brands seem to have their model years start in the middle of the calendar year.

I bet that a non demo version of that Merc will be a lot more than 48K brand new.

And I don't see much point in buying a brand new luxury sedan or wagon at the moment anyway. Might as well pay a little extra and get a Tesla.

Or just get the Santa Fe, as the only electric SUV available is the model X. And that costs megabucks. Yet the Santa Fe would probably still be better for towing.

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#1991749 9-Apr-2018 00:19

MikeB4: Hyundai are very good vehicles with very dealerr backing. They are well put together and very reliable. Mercedes on the other hand has woeful reliability and terrible backing.

Do you have any evidence to support your claims about Mercedes? As someone with a LOT of clients with Mercs, I have never heard a bad word said about them.

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#1991757 9-Apr-2018 06:31

networkn:

MikeB4: Hyundai are very good vehicles with very dealerr backing. They are well put together and very reliable. Mercedes on the other hand has woeful reliability and terrible backing.

Do you have any evidence to support your claims about Mercedes? As someone with a LOT of clients with Mercs, I have never heard a bad word said about them.

I would say jump onto YouTube and search ' Auto expert John Cadogan ' and watch his reviews they are very direct

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#1991758 9-Apr-2018 06:38

I can't speak for Mercedes, but I can say that nothing on my Mini can be replaced easily and the parts themselves are hugely expensive.

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#1991759 9-Apr-2018 06:46

Linux:

I would say jump onto YouTube and search ' Auto expert John Cadogan ' and watch his reviews they are very direct

I really enjoy his videos but keep in mind that he is biased towards Hyundai, Kia, Mazda and Subaru and rubbishes Ford, GM and anything European.

I personally tend to agree with that perspective, but he gets a bit carried away at times.

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#1991760 9-Apr-2018 06:48

As for the Santa Fe, it's a good vehicle but I think it's getting towards the end of its model life. The price quoted seems steep, so I'm guessing that's probably a top of the line AWD diesel. You can usually save a lot of money if you give yourself a reality check as to whether you really need the most expensive variant.

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#1991777 9-Apr-2018 07:29

I have a Nissan vehicle that I'm happy with, and their pricing seems quite good. Worth considering, if they have the size / shape vehicle you need.

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#1991782 9-Apr-2018 07:39

@networkn it does not take much research to discover that the prize winners for bad reliability are Mercedes, Fiat/Chrysler/Jeep, the VW Group, GM and inparticular GMH and Ford.

The prize winners for reliability are Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, Suzuki and Mazda.

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#1991793 9-Apr-2018 08:07

Aredwood: The ex demo will probably soon be last year's model. As most car brands seem to have their model years start in the middle of the calendar year.

I bet that a non demo version of that Merc will be a lot more than 48K brand new.

And I don't see much point in buying a brand new luxury sedan or wagon at the moment anyway. Might as well pay a little extra and get a Tesla.

Or just get the Santa Fe, as the only electric SUV available is the model X. And that costs megabucks. Yet the Santa Fe would probably still be better for towing.

I think reviewers don't consider Tesla a luxury car, and luxury cars are apparently making electric vehicles "soon". And I'm not sure about the waitlist for a Tesla nowadays ... anyone?

Also I think the OP lives quite far from between charging stations ... I think.

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#1991794 9-Apr-2018 08:08

MikeB4:

@networkn it does not take much research to discover that the prize winners for bad reliability are Mercedes, Fiat/Chrysler/Jeep, the VW Group, GM and inparticular GMH and Ford.

The prize winners for reliability are Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, Suzuki and Mazda.

OP drives a Land Rover, I don't think he will mind the reliability of the Merc.

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#1991795 9-Apr-2018 08:10

networkn:

MikeB4: Hyundai are very good vehicles with very dealerr backing. They are well put together and very reliable. Mercedes on the other hand has woeful reliability and terrible backing.

Do you have any evidence to support your claims about Mercedes? As someone with a LOT of clients with Mercs, I have never heard a bad word said about them.

I have friends who have bought Mercs, every one of them has had to have a repair under warranty. Half of them then no longer drive Mercs. The other half have lots of Mercs despite that, not sure why.

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#1991797 9-Apr-2018 08:28

The 82K or so for the Santa Fe is the top end model. The model just below is good enough. Also, thats RRP, you can easily negotiate a discount but due to its popularity, the sales guys dont seem to care much. All the guys at work who has had European cars have had major repair work done on theirs. Rule of thumb seems to be that if you are buying second hard, get mechanical warranty. Brand new cars dont appear to have that many issues but it is also fairly common to get them repaired within first 3 years. My Santa Fe was brand new and within the first two years, i had both headlights and windscreen replaced.

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#1991799 9-Apr-2018 08:34

MikeB4: Hyundai are very good vehicles with very dealerr backing. They are well put together and very reliable. Mercedes on the other hand has woeful reliability and terrible backing.

Hyundai are ok cars mechanically but $83k is a joke and you can expect $30k to fall off as you drive off the lot. The interiors are plastic tacky. There's little to no pleasure in driving them.

But you can't compare a 7 seat SUV to a station wagon either.

If Mrs Geektastic is looking for a 7 seater and doesn't need to tow anything heavy I'd say Kodiaq. It has all the widgets the Hyundai has but with a feeling of quality and $20k less on the sticker.

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#1991806 9-Apr-2018 08:49

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networkn:

MikeB4: Hyundai are very good vehicles with very dealerr backing. They are well put together and very reliable. Mercedes on the other hand has woeful reliability and terrible backing.

Do you have any evidence to support your claims about Mercedes? As someone with a LOT of clients with Mercs, I have never heard a bad word said about them.

I would say jump onto YouTube and search ' Auto expert John Cadogan ' and watch his reviews they are very direct

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Some friends of mine used to upgrade their new Merc's every year (one each + they don't know what to do with all the money rolling in from their business) and always complained about the service. One day one of the vehicles got broken into at the Seaview marina and my friends got mucked around so badly by the dealer over repairs that they switched to Porsche.

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