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#237928 25-Jun-2018 09:19
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I was in Melbourne for the weekend and was surprised at how much lower fuel costs were (unleaded was advertised around $1.51).

Anyone with more knowledge of the two places able to shed any light on the disparity? It is quite large.





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  #2043396 25-Jun-2018 09:22
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How much tax (oops I mean fuel excise) is charged on Australian fuel?
Edit: Google says 0.4c/litre.

Take the NZ tax out and petrol in NZ is about $1.50.




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  #2043407 25-Jun-2018 09:39
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Although VIC load more cost into the Annual rego than NZ does

 

Registering a car in VIC is around $290/year (exc TAC, when that's included its around $800 AUD)

 

In NZ  annual car reg is $52 ( exc ACC, when you include that most cars are around $100).

 

So that is around  $750 NZ a year - or around $25 a fortnight

 

 


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  #2043410 25-Jun-2018 09:42
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Dingbatt: How much tax (oops I mean fuel excise) is charged on Australian fuel?
Edit: Google says 0.4c/litre.

Take the NZ tax out and petrol in NZ is about $1.50.

 

More like 40c/l (according to google)




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  #2043418 25-Jun-2018 09:43
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Its the difference between road tax being placed on fuel or an annual registration fee. All added up, the cost of running a vehicle on both sides of the Tasman is comparable.


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  #2043422 25-Jun-2018 09:46
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Senecio:

 

Its the difference between road tax being placed on fuel or an annual registration fee. All added up, the cost of running a vehicle on both sides of the Tasman is comparable.

 

 

Not true. it depends entirely on your usage. The anual cost of running a car in Aus is far cheaper if you are a heavy driver like myself.


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  #2043424 25-Jun-2018 09:49
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There's no free lunch:

 

In Sydney / Melbourne, you'd probably also be paying about $750 /year registration (incl third party) as well as paying considerable amounts in tolls - depending on where you're living. So as a rough approximation, add $10/week to your car costs for extra registration costs compared to NZ, then add about $20 for tolls if you're commuting. (this is very approximate - if you were commuting on say the eastern distributor in Sydney, that's over $36 / week in tolls - plus whatever additional tolls you accumulate when you're not commuting).

 

Then parking costs, insurance costs, very high fines.  It's not so bad here - especially if you've got a reasonably fuel efficient car.


 
 
 
 

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  #2043425 25-Jun-2018 09:51
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Wiggum:

 

Senecio:

 

Its the difference between road tax being placed on fuel or an annual registration fee. All added up, the cost of running a vehicle on both sides of the Tasman is comparable.

 

 

Not true. it depends entirely on your usage. The anual cost of running a car in Aus is far cheaper if you are a heavy driver like myself.

 

 

True, I should have clarified. They are comparable for the average user.


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  #2043431 25-Jun-2018 09:56
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You also have to pay "stamp duty" on the car and possibly luxury car tax too..

 

 

 

https://www.livingin-australia.com/buying-a-car/

 

 

 

 


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  #2043444 25-Jun-2018 10:33
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Petrol prices in Australia also fluctuate significantly throughout the week. It's not uncommon to see prices change by 15cpl overnight, with price increases often occurring later in the week and dropping again after the weekend. 

 

 


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  #2043572 25-Jun-2018 14:36
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What is TAC?





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  #2043575 25-Jun-2018 14:39
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Geektastic: What is TAC?

 

Victoria's version of ACC for motor vehicle injuries...


 
 
 

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  #2043576 25-Jun-2018 14:40
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Geektastic: What is TAC?

 

 

 

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  #2043584 25-Jun-2018 15:07
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This discussion comes up from time to time.  It's simply not comparing apples with apples.  Accept it's a different country with different road funding models and tax and move on.    





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  #2043666 25-Jun-2018 16:52
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Fred99:

 

There's no free lunch:

 

In Sydney / Melbourne, you'd probably also be paying about $750 /year registration (incl third party) as well as paying considerable amounts in tolls - depending on where you're living. So as a rough approximation, add $10/week to your car costs for extra registration costs compared to NZ, then add about $20 for tolls if you're commuting. (this is very approximate - if you were commuting on say the eastern distributor in Sydney, that's over $36 / week in tolls - plus whatever additional tolls you accumulate when you're not commuting).

 

Then parking costs, insurance costs, very high fines.  It's not so bad here - especially if you've got a reasonably fuel efficient car.

 

 

And the tools on the Eastern Distributor are pretty cheap too.  My commute along the Monash Freeway section of Citylink in Melbourne, plus a short hop along Eastlink costs $20 PER DAY.


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  #2043673 25-Jun-2018 17:01
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stevenk:

Fred99:


There's no free lunch:


In Sydney / Melbourne, you'd probably also be paying about $750 /year registration (incl third party) as well as paying considerable amounts in tolls - depending on where you're living. So as a rough approximation, add $10/week to your car costs for extra registration costs compared to NZ, then add about $20 for tolls if you're commuting. (this is very approximate - if you were commuting on say the eastern distributor in Sydney, that's over $36 / week in tolls - plus whatever additional tolls you accumulate when you're not commuting).


Then parking costs, insurance costs, very high fines.  It's not so bad here - especially if you've got a reasonably fuel efficient car.



And the tools on the Eastern Distributor are pretty cheap too.  My commute along the Monash Freeway section of Citylink in Melbourne, plus a short hop along Eastlink costs $20 PER DAY.



To be fair, the roads I saw were all very very good. Much better than what most of us see here every day.





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