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#242168 14-Oct-2018 17:30
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Need a new Ute to cart the dogs around in. Looking at a Mitsubishi Triton. Pros and cons please?


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  #2107705 14-Oct-2018 18:11
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Maybe a cheap one here?

 

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#2107712 14-Oct-2018 18:24
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That's the one! cool


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  #2107923 15-Oct-2018 08:40
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I've known a few Triton owners - never had one myself.

 

 

 

By all accounts, the Mitsi seems to be relatively trouble free and represents good value.





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  #2107924 15-Oct-2018 08:47
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A guy at work has the latest Triton, It looks pretty wimpy on the grand scheme of things but he has had no issues and it seems to drive well..

Best looking, comfort, handling, safety and power: V6 Amarok
Best value: Ford Ranger or BT50
Good value and offroad: D-Max
Avoid: Foton, Greatwall, Mahinda, TATA. 


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  #2107929 15-Oct-2018 08:58
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Why would you avoid Great Wall? They are half the price (of the Rangers/Hiluxes), and though I've not driven one, I don't imagine they are half the vehicle. The Great Wall Utes are built on a Triton platform (I thing they have/had Mitsi engines).

 

Another one to look at would be LDV.


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  #2107935 15-Oct-2018 09:04
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trig42:

 

Why would you avoid Great Wall? They are half the price (of the Rangers/Hiluxes), and though I've not driven one, I don't imagine they are half the vehicle. The Great Wall Utes are built on a Triton platform (I thing they have/had Mitsi engines).

 

Another one to look at would be LDV.

 

 

Half the price - half the crash rating?


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  #2107944 15-Oct-2018 09:17
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Nate001:

 

trig42:

 

Why would you avoid Great Wall? They are half the price (of the Rangers/Hiluxes), and though I've not driven one, I don't imagine they are half the vehicle. The Great Wall Utes are built on a Triton platform (I thing they have/had Mitsi engines).

 

Another one to look at would be LDV.

 

 

Half the price - half the crash rating?

 

 

 

 

If the fact 1980-1990 hilux's are still around and are in better nick than every one of those utes that are 2-3 years old what does that also say lol? Also most of those Hilux's interiors have held up better than  a 5 year old new ranger.. Anyway.. 


 
 
 

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  #2107953 15-Oct-2018 09:37
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trig42:

 

Why would you avoid Great Wall? They are half the price (of the Rangers/Hiluxes), and though I've not driven one, I don't imagine they are half the vehicle. The Great Wall Utes are built on a Triton platform (I thing they have/had Mitsi engines).

 

Another one to look at would be LDV.

 

 

There's also the Foton from China.  I'd suggest avoiding all of them because they're Chinese made.  Would you buy a new Chinese car because it's half price?

 

Great Wall make their own diesel engines, LDV use an old version of the problem-prone VM Motori / Fiat engine used in the Holden Colorado. Foton uses a Cummins engine - which you'd think...


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OK fair enough.

 

It won't be long, however, that buying a Chinese made car will be quite a normal thing to do. They are catching up, and fast.

 

It wasn't *that* long ago that no-one wanted a Japanese made car...


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  #2107960 15-Oct-2018 09:43
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Fred99:

trig42:


Why would you avoid Great Wall? They are half the price (of the Rangers/Hiluxes), and though I've not driven one, I don't imagine they are half the vehicle. The Great Wall Utes are built on a Triton platform (I thing they have/had Mitsi engines).


Another one to look at would be LDV.



There's also the Foton from China.  I'd suggest avoiding all of them because they're Chinese made.  Would you buy a new Chinese car because it's half price?


Great Wall make their own diesel engines, LDV use an old version of the problem-prone VM Motori / Fiat engine used in the Holden Colorado. Foton uses a Cummins engine - which you'd think...



I feel like the same thing has been said about Japanese vehicles in the past, and Korean...

If you took away the Chinese badges and replaced it with something Japanese, you would likely never know the difference and pay tens of thousands more. Some of the vehicles coming out of China now are very decent cars with very good specs.

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trig42:

 

OK fair enough.

 

It won't be long, however, that buying a Chinese made car will be quite a normal thing to do. They are catching up, and fast.

 

It wasn't *that* long ago that no-one wanted a Japanese made car...

 

 

 

 

That was primarily due to their stigma in the world at the time, The time it took for Toyota to go from zero to hero was 1/10th of the time it took for the Americans to get to where they were at the time and then they surpassed any US automaker by a huge margin.
So you're saying a war torn destroyed nation that made a handful of cars was un desirable but then 15-20 years after the war they sprung back to being the best in the world. O..K.... 

 

doctormaxim:
Fred99:

 

trig42:

 

 

 

Why would you avoid Great Wall? They are half the price (of the Rangers/Hiluxes), and though I've not driven one, I don't imagine they are half the vehicle. The Great Wall Utes are built on a Triton platform (I thing they have/had Mitsi engines).

 

 

 

Another one to look at would be LDV.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's also the Foton from China.  I'd suggest avoiding all of them because they're Chinese made.  Would you buy a new Chinese car because it's half price?

 

 

 

Great Wall make their own diesel engines, LDV use an old version of the problem-prone VM Motori / Fiat engine used in the Holden Colorado. Foton uses a Cummins engine - which you'd think...

 



I feel like the same thing has been said about Japanese vehicles in the past, and Korean...

If you took away the Chinese badges and replaced it with something Japanese, you would likely never know the difference and pay tens of thousands more. Some of the vehicles coming out of China now are very decent cars with very good specs.

 

 

 

Most of the engines are great, most crate engines are.. Its what the engines bolted to which is not the best..


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  #2107973 15-Oct-2018 09:59
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trig42:

 

OK fair enough.

 

It won't be long, however, that buying a Chinese made car will be quite a normal thing to do. They are catching up, and fast.

 

It wasn't *that* long ago that no-one wanted a Japanese made car...

 

 

I don't think that's going to happen with Chinese brands - at least not for a long time.  Maybe with Japanese/Euro/American brands made in China - most of the utes for sale here are made in Thailand to utilise cheaper labour and seem to not be plagued with quality issues as a result of that.

 

I suggest looking into the history of "Kaizen", how that was adopted with great enthusiasm by Japanese manufacturing after WW2 and the results, then consider how that fits in with a rigid regimented "top down" management structure where low-paid worker slaves are out of the loop.


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A mate of mine his old man has a Great Wall Ute, talk about plastic! Might look ok on the outside but the interior is absolutely budget, cheap plastic everywhere.

I have a 2018 Triton for work, it’s ok, not as good looking as a Ranger but drives better, worst Ute I had was a Navara. That thing was a pig of a thing to drive, next to no turning lock on that thing, nailing a car park at the supermarket first pop was a challenge in itself.

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  #2108198 15-Oct-2018 13:57
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Dial111:
I have a 2018 Triton for work, it’s ok, not as good looking as a Ranger but drives better, worst Ute I had was a Navara. That thing was a pig of a thing to drive, next to no turning lock on that thing, nailing a car park at the supermarket first pop was a challenge in itself.

 

 

 

 

 

I've never really thought about the turning circle when looking a car from the outside...that's a good point - I am so used to having a tight turning circle that I'd be devastated to buy a new car/ute/SUV and find myself doing 5 point turns where I used to do a U-Turn...





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  #2108211 15-Oct-2018 14:28
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BIL (to be) bought a Mahindra few years ago, and apart from having some issues with the suspension (vehicle was rated for xxx amount of tonnage, yet suspension wasn't), he swears by them. Hes just gone out and bought a new one.

 

 





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