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# 243898 8-Jan-2019 07:50
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I got the following flyer on my car from Wilson Parking, AKA, "Parking Enforcement Services."

It says "Johnsonville Shopping Centre car parks are for customers only use" Wilson parking forgot to mentioned its shared parking with "Park N Ride."

Contrary to what the flyer says, some parts of the lot are clearly signed, others are not.

Of course on Wilson and NZTA websites it doesn't say which spaces are for which.

And Wilson is notorious for over-reach; laying claim to spaces if no one notices or objects. Obviously they make money for breach notices.

So how do I figure out officially who has which spaces in the lot, Wilson or NZTA free "park and ride"?

I trust "Wilson Parking" about as far as I can throw the parking lot, and I'd guess NZTA probably don't care if Wilson over reaches.

Johnsonville shopping centre parking policy

Free customer parking

Johnsonville Shopping Centre has free time-limited customer-only car parking for your convenience while shopping in the Centre. There are three hour (P180) parking areas which are clearly sign-posted through our Centre car parks.

Extended Parking

If for any unforeseen circumstances you require your car to be parked for longer than the allocated 10 minutes, please visit the Centre Management Office.

Johnsonville Shopping Centre car parks are for customers only use, so please don't be offended if you are asked to verify you are shopping at the Centre.

Parking Enforcement

If you exceed the time limit for your parking without arranging extended parking with us, Parking Enforcement Services, who monitor the car cars, may issue you with a breach notice which incurs a $60 enforcement fee.

If you would like to appeal a breach notice, simply follow the appeal process outlined on the notice, or visit Parking Enforcement Services website www.pesnz.co.nz and let them know why you are appealing. They can be contacted on 0800 727 536



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  # 2156082 8-Jan-2019 08:05
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up here they have something similar in a shopping center carpark, they have marked the carparks with the shops so you dont get towed/ticketed


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  # 2156084 8-Jan-2019 08:24
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I filed out the form here to revoke access to my registration details and then placed any "breach notices" straight in the bin.

 

https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/PersonalInfoAccess/entry

 

Never had any issues with these clowns since, but you do need to be careful because your vehicle's registration might be put on a hit list and towed/clamped if seen in any wilsons/pesnz controlled carpark.  I haven't had any issues parking at the shopping centre carparks controlled by pesnz but I do avoid the wilsons paid carparks now because of previous unpaid breach notices against my registration, first time it happened was because I was 5min late getting back to the car - the Auckland transport owned car-parks are far cheaper anyway so I use them.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2156089 8-Jan-2019 08:29
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Park and Ride at Johnsonville is run by the regional council, Aka Metlink... ( not NZTA)

 

Get in touch with them and ask for a map of which parks are for park and ride

 

https://www.metlink.org.nz/customer-services/connect-with-us/

 

 


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  # 2156128 8-Jan-2019 08:39
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I thought they were all Johnsonville Shopping Center parking only, with no park and ride at all in the mall area. Interested if you can find out definitively otherwise.


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  # 2156135 8-Jan-2019 08:48
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I have seen an editorial by lawyer on this topic ... she said that companies aren't legally able to charge an arbitrary enforcement fee, they can only charge the actual value of the unpaid parking (if any) plus their reasonable cost of collection (which will be very little for an auto generated letter).

 

And if a company ever clamped my car  ... the grinder would come out





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  # 2156136 8-Jan-2019 08:49
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gareth41:

I filed out the form here to revoke access to my registration details and then placed any "breach notices" straight in the bin.


https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/PersonalInfoAccess/entry


Never had any issues with these clowns since, but you do need to be careful because your vehicle's registration might be put on a hit list and towed/clamped if seen in any wilsons/pesnz controlled carpark.  I haven't had any issues parking at the shopping centre carparks controlled by pesnz but I do avoid the wilsons paid carparks now because of previous unpaid breach notices against my registration, first time it happened was because I was 5min late getting back to the car - the Auckland transport owned car-parks are far cheaper anyway so I use them.



Brilliant! From the website



Where I'm up to:

Revoke access (Opt-out)

I confirm I want to revoke access to my personal information by third parties authorised by the Ministry of Transport.


Revoke this access (Opt-out)


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  # 2156139 8-Jan-2019 08:55
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Having used a Park N Ride park at Johnsonville a few weeks ago, certainly the parks adjacent to the railway line towards the Broderick Road overbridge are marked as such.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2156145 8-Jan-2019 09:10
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wellygary:

 

Park and Ride at Johnsonville is run by the regional council, Aka Metlink... ( not NZTA)

 

Get in touch with them and ask for a map of which parks are for park and ride

 

https://www.metlink.org.nz/customer-services/connect-with-us/

 

 

EDIT: after a quick look at street view,  the Park and Ride spaces are all the parks south of the steps with the white handrail halfway along the platform,




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  # 2156146 8-Jan-2019 09:11
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I put in an enquiry to Metlink. Thanks @wellygary

There are some parks in the inside the shared lot, directly across from the marked space on the road, I believe.


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  # 2156205 8-Jan-2019 10:30
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michaelmurfy:

Just don't pay them the $60 - you're under zero obligation to. Especially since you didn't know this was a PES area.


Guide here: https://www.gpforums.co.nz/threads/508987-Getting-out-of-parking-tickets-Wilson-PES-parking-quot-fine-quot-guide-thread



Great advice. From the website

..."Parking companies are not a statutorily authority and have no legal basis to enforce their punitive fees. Deny liability.

Should debt collectors come after you, dispute liability and say you will file against them to the Privacy Commission should there be any default on your credit.

Debt collection agencies cannot recover fees that are in dispute."...

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  # 2156214 8-Jan-2019 10:44
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kingdragonfly:

 

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So how do I figure out officially who has which spaces in the lot, Wilson or NZTA free "park and ride"?

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Johnsonville Shopping Centre has free time-limited customer-only car parking for your convenience while shopping in the Centre. There are three hour (P180) parking areas which are clearly sign-posted through our Centre car parks.

 

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Does that answer the question?

 

 




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  # 2156390 8-Jan-2019 13:39
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20 + 35 = 55 total commuter "Park & Ride" car parks at a major hub like Johnsonville.
Sheesh, not what you'd call a generous allocation

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  # 2156398 8-Jan-2019 13:53
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That's why I figured there were none - there's effectively none other than for a few people who probably arrive before 6am.


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