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# 254286 5-Aug-2019 15:39
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Hi, im looking at getting 2 of these Fusion Cp-As1080 underseat subs for my new car and was wondering if anyone here has used them and are they any good?

 

They are a good price but I dont want to buy them then find they are awful and not any good. I know that a 12" in the boot would be better but I would like to keep my boot space for other stuff.

 

I'll be putting in 6x9s in the parcel tray and good door speakers so I should have a good amount of bass from those but I still want a sub for the "thump".


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  # 2290356 5-Aug-2019 16:31
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They are very tall and fitting under some seats is optimistic. Check for seat wiring that will foul on it when slid.





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  # 2290358 5-Aug-2019 16:36
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What sort of music are you listening to? (oddly enough, this helps determine the size of the sub) 

 

What's the upper limit of your budget? 

 

Would you consider an 8" sub in a custom box for the boot that could be easily removed if necessary? There are also bazooka style units available with built-in amps that you could look into. These are held down by straps in the boot so are easily removed. 

 

You've mentioned that you're getting 6x9's which I assume will be run off an amp rather than just the headunit, so when the box isn't in the boot they'd at least provide some base. 

 

My experience with the Fusion products are that their performance & reliability is commensurate with their price point. The base is obviously far better than what the factory speakers are capable of, however as a budget line the quality of the base produced isn't as good as other brands, and you can't push them too hard or the speakers can tear. 

 

Shallow enclosures will also limit base output, so although you MIGHT be able to push 600w through the sub, a 6" sub in a larger custom enclosure is likely to produce far better output. 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2290392 5-Aug-2019 17:23
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I have two of these.. one in each (older) car.

 

They are average. Certainly better than no sub.. but also easy to overdrive and make sound horrible.

 

They do fit under my seats, which is why I have them. 

 

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  # 2290488 5-Aug-2019 19:54
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the question is, are there any alternatives in this price backet? (yes need to be underseat, got no space in boot)





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  # 2290496 5-Aug-2019 20:08
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wsnz:

What sort of music are you listening to? (oddly enough, this helps determine the size of the sub) 


What's the upper limit of your budget? 


Would you consider an 8" sub in a custom box for the boot that could be easily removed if necessary? There are also bazooka style units available with built-in amps that you could look into. These are held down by straps in the boot so are easily removed. 


You've mentioned that you're getting 6x9's which I assume will be run off an amp rather than just the headunit, so when the box isn't in the boot they'd at least provide some base. 


My experience with the Fusion products are that their performance & reliability is commensurate with their price point. The base is obviously far better than what the factory speakers are capable of, however as a budget line the quality of the base produced isn't as good as other brands, and you can't push them too hard or the speakers can tear. 


Shallow enclosures will also limit base output, so although you MIGHT be able to push 600w through the sub, a 6" sub in a larger custom enclosure is likely to produce far better output. 


 


I listen to alot of hip-hop/rap music. I'm now thinking 1 12" in a box might be better. I've got 2 12"s in my current car but they take up pretty much my whole boot and I'm getting a new car in a week and I would like the boot space. I did see the pawnshop in town have a 12" fusion sub in a box with built in amp for a similar price, that might be better I'll just have to protect it in my boot. I have seen the barrel/bazooka subs but haven't really heard much about them.



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  # 2290497 5-Aug-2019 20:11
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Batman:

the question is, are there any alternatives in this price backet? (yes need to be underseat, got no space in boot)



For the price of underseat subs there aren't really any name brand ones, there are no name ones on Trademe but could be awful. It doesn't NEED to be underseat I would just like as much space as possible

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  # 2290569 5-Aug-2019 21:16
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i was searching and came found this one. but you can only buy it in the US.

 

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  # 2291120 6-Aug-2019 18:34
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Vrokxx: 

 

I listen to alot of hip-hop/rap music. I'm now thinking 1 12" in a box might be better. I've got 2 12"s in my current car but they take up pretty much my whole boot and I'm getting a new car in a week and I would like the boot space. I did see the pawnshop in town have a 12" fusion sub in a box with built in amp for a similar price, that might be better I'll just have to protect it in my boot. I have seen the barrel/bazooka subs but haven't really heard much about them.

 

The pawnshop stuff is okay, but just be aware that it could have been absolutely trashed, causing premature component failure. Usually the component that fails will be one of the amplifier transistors or a capacitor, which can be repaired without too much of an issue.

 

A 12" or 10" would do. I'd recommend buying a quality 10" over the Fusion 12" simply because it will probably perform better than the Fusion for the intended task, despite the size difference. Amp wise, the Fusion sub amp's are okay but I've seen them go into thermal overload pretty quickly compared to others. I wouldn't recommend using a Fusion 4-channel amp for the internal speakers if you can help it.

 

The Bazooka style units (lots of manufacturers make them, including Fusion) are great all in ones and they're a lot more potable than the sub box, but they come at a premium.




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  # 2291353 7-Aug-2019 08:14
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wsnz:

 

The pawnshop stuff is okay, but just be aware that it could have been absolutely trashed, causing premature component failure. Usually the component that fails will be one of the amplifier transistors or a capacitor, which can be repaired without too much of an issue.

 

A 12" or 10" would do. I'd recommend buying a quality 10" over the Fusion 12" simply because it will probably perform better than the Fusion for the intended task, despite the size difference. Amp wise, the Fusion sub amp's are okay but I've seen them go into thermal overload pretty quickly compared to others. I wouldn't recommend using a Fusion 4-channel amp for the internal speakers if you can help it.

 

The Bazooka style units (lots of manufacturers make them, including Fusion) are great all in ones and they're a lot more potable than the sub box, but they come at a premium.

 

 

 

 

What 10" would you recommend? There's too many options and I just get overwhelmed trying to find the one that I want.

 

I've been looking around for awhile and I came across this one: JBL GT-12BP 12" . It looks good to me and I dont think it would take up that much boot space, any thoughts on it? Ive looked at some amazon reviews on it and they all sound good.


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