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# 254369 9-Aug-2019 11:46
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Apple Carplay is getting an overhaul in the up coming iOS 13 release this coming Spring.

 

One of the criteria for our new Kia Sportage EX in February this year was it must have CarPlay as we are iPhone 7 users and always love to listen to our iTunes playlists whilst on medium to long journeys. Initially in previous vehicles via a Belkin device then via a BlueTooth Audio Head unit which also did hands free phone.

 

So having Apple CarPlay in the Kia was a God send. iMessage and Turn-by-Turn navigation was just a bonus. But these two features have now become a must have, along with steering wheel phone controls and central instrument cluster repeating, briefly, of what is happening on the main Infotainment screen.

 

I have just finished reading a really good review of the up coming iOS 13 CarPlay update: CarPlay in iOS 13: A Big Leap Forward and I am quite excited about this update.

 

Without, of course, having experienced this update I can not give a real life verdict but the one thing that I gandered from the article is that; If current track information is longer than the screen it becomes truncated. (Which is the current state of affairs in iOS 12) This is an especially frequent issue with song and podcast titles. This is such a shame. They scrolled on my old 5th Gen iPod and they scroll on my iPhone 7. Why they can not scroll in CarPlay is an Apple mystery and great pity.

 

But overall I can not wait for this update and I also hope Kia issues a software update to the Infotainment system to take full advantage of all the new bells and whistles that Apple are introducing under the CarPlay hood.





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  # 2292851 9-Aug-2019 11:54
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Hopefully this doesn't break Spotify, its starting to become noticeable less buggy in the last few months in regards to carplay


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  # 2292854 9-Aug-2019 12:00
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Does the updated actually require the car manufacturer to issue an update? My understanding is that Carplay is hosted on your iPhone and the car entertainment system just acts as a dumb screen and input device.

 

I was quite excited about getting Carplay when I bought my CX5 earlier this year, but I have to say I haven't found it that useful. I only listen to music when I'm in a quiet environment with decent audio gear so music in the car is a no-go for me, and I hardly ever need maps as I am familiar with most NZ towns, cities and state highways. Most times when I get in the car I can't be bothered plugging the phone in. 

 

I guess it's just a personal preference thing.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2292861 9-Aug-2019 12:16
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Had a read, pretty good looking update.

 

As above, I don't think your car will need an update, as it is just using the cars screen as an extension to your phone's processor. That is the beauty (from a car manufacturer and car owner's point of view) of CarPlay and Android Auto.

 

It would be nice if they allowed you to customise the dashboard - I'd prefer Google Maps in there, but I may give Apple Maps a go again.


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  # 2292864 9-Aug-2019 12:23
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CarPlay for me is now a must have.

I never listen to broadcast radio and as I have 55min commute each way then Spotify or a podcast is always on. Regarding maps, I use them even when I know where Iโ€™m going. They steer me around traffic and congestion so itโ€™s the first thing I do when I get into the car.

One of the features Iโ€™m looking forward to in IOS 13 is to have a streaming app and maps side by side on the screen.

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  # 2292868 9-Aug-2019 12:33
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trig42:

 

Had a read, pretty good looking update.

 

As above, I don't think your car will need an update, as it is just using the cars screen as an extension to your phone's processor. That is the beauty (from a car manufacturer and car owner's point of view) of CarPlay and Android Auto.

 

It would be nice if they allowed you to customise the dashboard - I'd prefer Google Maps in there, but I may give Apple Maps a go again.

 

 

Google Maps works with Car Play now, as done for a while.

 

And no the car itself doesn't need any update.




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  # 2292871 9-Aug-2019 12:41
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alasta:

 

Does the updated actually require the car manufacturer to issue an update? My understanding is that Carplay is hosted on your iPhone and the car entertainment system just acts as a dumb screen and input device.

 

No it doesn't but as stated in the article;

 

"Apple also announced CarPlay support for irregularly-sized in-car screens, second independent screens for spots like between a car's instrument clusters, and dynamic screen resizing that can adjust to show CarPlay content alongside information from other sources like the car manufacturer's entertainment system."

 

trig42: It would be nice if they allowed you to customise the dashboard - I'd prefer Google Maps in there, but I may give Apple Maps a go again.

 

You will still be able to customise as the article states;

 

"With iOS 13, instead of a virtual CarPlay UI, CarPlay's settings include a ‘Customize’ buttonthat takes you to a screen that lets you delete and rearrange apps from a list reminiscent of what you see when editing your iPhone's Today widgets. The new interface isn't a one-to-one replication of CarPlay on your iPhone, but by using the iPhone's screen space better, setting up CarPlay to your liking is faster now."

 

So you will still be able to use Google Maps which I personally find better, at the moment, to Apple Maps.





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  # 2292882 9-Aug-2019 12:56
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FineWine:

 

alasta:

 

Does the updated actually require the car manufacturer to issue an update? My understanding is that Carplay is hosted on your iPhone and the car entertainment system just acts as a dumb screen and input device.

 

No it doesn't but as stated in the article;

 

"Apple also announced CarPlay support for irregularly-sized in-car screens, second independent screens for spots like between a car's instrument clusters, and dynamic screen resizing that can adjust to show CarPlay content alongside information from other sources like the car manufacturer's entertainment system."

 

trig42: It would be nice if they allowed you to customise the dashboard - I'd prefer Google Maps in there, but I may give Apple Maps a go again.

 

You will still be able to customise as the article states;

 

"With iOS 13, instead of a virtual CarPlay UI, CarPlay's settings include a ‘Customize’ buttonthat takes you to a screen that lets you delete and rearrange apps from a list reminiscent of what you see when editing your iPhone's Today widgets. The new interface isn't a one-to-one replication of CarPlay on your iPhone, but by using the iPhone's screen space better, setting up CarPlay to your liking is faster now."

 

So you will still be able to use Google Maps which I personally find better, at the moment, to Apple Maps.

 

 

After reading through that article, it seems Apple Maps is the only one you will see on the dashboard screen. Obviously, you can use Google Maps, but it won't be the maps shown in the dashboard view:

 

 

Still, the Dashboard leaves me wanting more. I’d love to treat the Dashboard like an Apple Watch face and set up multiple Dashboards for different occasions. For instance, I don’t need Maps if I’m running short errands near my home. For those occasions, I’d like to replace Maps with a more full-featured Music widget that lets me navigate through my favorite music. I’d also like to see Apple allow third-party apps to offer widgets like they do with Watch complications. That way, I could substitute in Google Maps or Waze for Maps or a weather widget for Siri suggestions, for example.

 

My bold.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2292885 9-Aug-2019 13:00
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Texting messaging with Apple carplay is great.





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  # 2292895 9-Aug-2019 13:26
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I've been running the beta for a few weeks now, and the updates to CarPlay are subtle and very welcomed. Apple Maps is so much better in iOS 13 that I've been using it significantly more than Google Maps or Waze. Sadly the screen below is locked to Apple Maps, but again I've been impressed with AM as of late.

 

The new information screen is particularly nice too. It now shows our HomeKit garage doors when approaching home (super handy), and calendar events. No update to the car needed.

 

Senecio: Regarding maps, I use them even when I know where I’m going. They steer me around traffic and congestion so it’s the first thing I do when I get into the car.

 

My partner always mocks me for doing this, but I'm with you on this. Always good to be routed around traffic/road closures.

 

 

 





 




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  # 2292899 9-Aug-2019 13:36
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trig42:

 

Still, the Dashboard leaves me wanting more. I’d love to treat the Dashboard like an Apple Watch face and set up multiple Dashboards for different occasions. For instance, I don’t need Maps if I’m running short errands near my home. For those occasions, I’d like to replace Maps with a more full-featured Music widget that lets me navigate through my favorite music. I’d also like to see Apple allow third-party apps to offer widgets like they do with Watch complications. That way, I could substitute in Google Maps or Waze for Maps or a weather widget for Siri suggestions, for example.

 

My bold.

 

Yes, sorry, I see what you are getting at now. I was looking at the far left column under the Time where, in that image, there is a third party app called Overcast.

 

So yes I agree with the you and the writer. It is like the scrolling Titles, allowed on the iPhone but not CarPlay so why not Widgets. Apple can makes some strange decisions sometimes.





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  # 2292902 9-Aug-2019 13:42
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Peppery:

 

I've been running the beta for a few weeks now, and the updates to CarPlay are subtle and very welcomed. Apple Maps is so much better in iOS 13 that I've been using it significantly more than Google Maps or Waze. Sadly the screen below is locked to Apple Maps, but again I've been impressed with AM as of late.

 

Wow thanks @Peppery Great to see it from the Right Hand Drive perspective ๐Ÿ˜€

 

Is locked to Apple Maps just a Beta thing and it will be unlocked on Gold release ?





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  # 2292975 9-Aug-2019 14:47
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FineWine:

 

Wow thanks @Peppery Great to see it from the Right Hand Drive perspective ๐Ÿ˜€

 

Is locked to Apple Maps just a Beta thing and it will be unlocked on Gold release ?

 

 

I'm not entirely sure if it's open to developers. If it is, we wouldn't see that 'til post release. I wouldn't put money on it.





 


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  # 2292987 9-Aug-2019 15:17
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I've been using the Beta for a few weeks in a new Mazda 3 with a wide-screen display.

 

The wide screen makes perfect sense when you want to view maps / music at the same time... which I never seem to do...

 

The Spotify app and Apple Maps app have both crashed on me or refused to load, so it's by no means ready for release.

 

However I actually use the Mazda's built-in navigation more as the lane indicators / street names appear on my HUD, whereas Apple doesn't seem to pass that info onto Mazda... nor does it handle speed restrictions up to the HUD either.

 

I have customised my home screen (1.5 pages of apps) and still tweak a few things from time to time... but I couldn't imagine why it wouldn't have been available from day dot.

 

 

 

Also, as an aside I don't typically like touch screens, so the Mazda's command dial works perfectly for me.


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  # 2293083 9-Aug-2019 16:33
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This all looks interesting, I'm currently using Carplay a lot in my Leaf via a USB dongle [it came with the car when I bought it, took me a while to workout what it was!]. I mainly use it for iTunes but have also been using Apple Maps often [sometimes in conjunction with Plugshare] and occasionally dictating short messages.

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  # 2293119 9-Aug-2019 17:41
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I love the new look and feel, So much more functional and pleasing to look at to boot.

 





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