Are demerit points automatic or discretionary?

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#262310 15-Jan-2020 21:49

My wife got nicked for speeding this evening on her way back from work. Not the first time her lead weighted right foot has got her into trouble with the rozzers.

She was fined $170. No mention was made of points. Does she get them automatically or are they only if the police officer awards them?

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#2392705 15-Jan-2020 21:57

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/driving-offences-and-penalties/demerit-points/

All speeding except for speed cameras.

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#2392707 15-Jan-2020 22:06

If you're pulled over and under 5ks of the posted limit you don't get pinged...

If she is paying $170, expect demerits.

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#2392713 15-Jan-2020 22:38

That is what I read, but the officer apparently never mentioned that to her at all, which struck me as a strange omission on his part.

Perhaps I shall take it as an excuse to upgrade my radar detector and give her my existing one...!

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#2392724 15-Jan-2020 22:52

Geektastic:
Perhaps I shall take it as an excuse to upgrade my radar detector and give her my existing one...!

Just slow down. 21-25km/h over the posted speed limit is way to fast.

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#2392725 15-Jan-2020 22:53

Ruphus:
Geektastic:

Perhaps I shall take it as an excuse to upgrade my radar detector and give her my existing one...!

Just slow down. 21-25km/h over the posted speed limit is way to fast.

I agree entirely. Perhaps she will.

And perhaps I can use it as an excuse to get a newer radar detector...!

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#2392726 15-Jan-2020 22:54

Get a Uniden R7. Best detector I've ever owned. Consistently 200m+ for camera vans, and not too chirpy on K band. Uniden use to be the poor cousin of detectors, but not any more.

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#2392727 15-Jan-2020 22:57

Between 20-30km/h over is 35 demerits and they expire after 2 years.

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#2392730 15-Jan-2020 23:52

She will100% be allocated the points against her licence

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#2392736 16-Jan-2020 07:22

Dunnersfella:
If you're pulled over and under 5ks of the posted limit you don't get pinged...

That's the discretionary part. The 5/10km/h "allowance" is Police policy rather than law.

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#2392737 16-Jan-2020 07:24

Geektastic:

That is what I read, but the officer apparently never mentioned that to her at all, which struck me as a strange omission on his part.

Perhaps I shall take it as an excuse to upgrade my radar detector and give her my existing one...!

A radar detector isn't necessarily going to save here. Going 20km/h + over the speed limit is dangerous and very obvious. Even in a Police car sees you at this speed and doesn't have their radar on you'd still get pulled over as it's going to be pretty obvious especially if it was a 50 km/h area.

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#2392742 16-Jan-2020 08:07

I'd just like to take the opportunity here to jump in and offer little to no advice, but heartily pass judgement on @geektastic 's wife - there just doesn't seem to have been enough of that and it doesn't feel very Geekzone.

I'll start the list of where her flaws begin...

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#2392751 16-Jan-2020 08:47

The only wriggle room you have with demerits is I think they are applied on the date you pay the fine as that is when you effectively admit to the offence. This can give a bit of leeway if you are close to the limit but have some expiring soon. Someone at work a few years back realised this when he was pinged on his motorbike (recreational riders seem to pick up speeding tickets like crazy). He realised he was very close to the liit but had a chunk expiring in a week or tow. Waited the 28 days before the reminder notice was sent then paid the fine, but that stage the earlier points had expired and his license was safe.

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#2392753 16-Jan-2020 08:52

Geektastic:

Ruphus:
Geektastic:

Perhaps I shall take it as an excuse to upgrade my radar detector and give her my existing one...!

Just slow down. 21-25km/h over the posted speed limit is way to fast.

I agree entirely. Perhaps she will.

And perhaps I can use it as an excuse to get a newer radar detector...!

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#2398746 16-Jan-2020 10:11

sbiddle:
Geektastic:

That is what I read, but the officer apparently never mentioned that to her at all, which struck me as a strange omission on his part.

Perhaps I shall take it as an excuse to upgrade my radar detector and give her my existing one...!

A radar detector isn't necessarily going to save here. Going 20km/h + over the speed limit is dangerous and very obvious. Even in a Police car sees you at this speed and doesn't have their radar on you'd still get pulled over as it's going to be pretty obvious especially if it was a 50 km/h area.

You’re missing the point! I’ve told her many times not to speed. That’s up to her. This must be about the sixth time she has been pinged for it since we moved here. Perhaps she’ll learn the lesson. Points might assist with that.

The point is, I might be able to get a free tech upgrade!

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#2398747 16-Jan-2020 10:14

Handsomedan:
I'd just like to take the opportunity here to jump in and offer little to no advice, but heartily pass judgement on @geektastic 's wife - there just doesn't seem to have been enough of that and it doesn't feel very Geekzone.

I'll start the list of where her flaws begin...

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