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#277231 2-Oct-2020 15:00
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Sup team

Kind of given up on finding a kp starlet (had one in my youth and miss it) unless anyone knows of one for sale. Positive points about a starlet that I would look for in a new car:

Rwd

Manual 

Small, light, but hatchback so can put kids/dogs/ etc in

Kind of cool

Not oodles of power



Have considered mx5, but far less practical, or some kind of holden/ford ute, same deal not enough seats, unsure if heavy feeling to drive. Have had an altezza, liked the handling platform, but still felt like a weighty gurl, and hated the engine. Any opinions or ideas welcomed, age not a factor in vehicle, and could save up more dollars for something. Thanks!

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  #2578159 2-Oct-2020 15:21
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Given you don't need oodles of power then I'm surprised you have ruled out FWD. Could look at the Toyota 86 aka Subaru BRZ?

 

 










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  #2578160 2-Oct-2020 15:22
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VW Polo or Golf? Although the Golf has put on a bit of weight over the years.

 

But there must be lots of little hatches on TradeMe? Or have they all blown out to SUVs?

 

 


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  #2578180 2-Oct-2020 16:08
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gbwelly:

 

Given you don't need oodles of power then I'm surprised you have ruled out FWD. Could look at the Toyota 86 aka Subaru BRZ?

 

 

 

 

A fun car - I had one for a few years - but isn't a hatchback and would be quite impractical for kids/dogs




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  #2578198 2-Oct-2020 16:33
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shk292:

 

gbwelly:

 

Given you don't need oodles of power then I'm surprised you have ruled out FWD. Could look at the Toyota 86 aka Subaru BRZ?

 

 

 

 

A fun car - I had one for a few years - but isn't a hatchback and would be quite impractical for kids/dogs

 

 

What RWD hatch do you recommend? Even if OP got his dream of a KP starlet it's going to be totally impractical :-)

 

 

 

 








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  #2578222 2-Oct-2020 17:39
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i didn't know they still made rwd hatchbacks! i can't think of a single one! even the BMW is fwd iirc


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  #2578226 2-Oct-2020 17:53
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gbwelly:

 

What RWD hatch do you recommend? Even if OP got his dream of a KP starlet it's going to be totally impractical :-)

 

 

I don't know of any RWD hatches, but I would think the practicality requirement would be more noticeable than the RWD/FWD one.

 

Maybe a BMW 1-series?

 

Or a Subaru Impreza - not RWD but at least not FWD

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #2578233 2-Oct-2020 18:09
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BMW 1 series pre 2011 ( E81/E82/E87/E88 ) are RWD

 

Any RWD small hatch backs have generally been fobar'd by boy racers.

 

 


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  #2578310 2-Oct-2020 20:36
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Golfs, had one, are fun, but fwd, and like bmws have wipers and indicators switched, kind of a deal breaker, but a 135i might change my mind!

Also eyeballing 86s, impractical but still 4 seats right? What about boxer engine, any good? Also manual ones are still pricey so if I drive one I'll have to save but will still be on the list, thanks!

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  #2578333 2-Oct-2020 21:32
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Nissan VZRs are a fav of mine (on to my 3rd) but have hit the age where they are hard to find now. The Mazda 3 MPS is a laugh too, it has oodles of power though.







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  #2578355 2-Oct-2020 22:45
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Both fun but neither of which is RWD. 

 


I sort of what the same as OP. Have come to the conclusion having something practical like a Corolla wagon and fun like an MX5/S2000 is probably the way to go. 


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  #2578357 2-Oct-2020 22:53
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What's budget?

Pre 2011 BMW 1 series.

BMW i3 (not manual, but single fixed ratio, so no auto either.) Ticks all the other boxes, but the boot is quite.

VW id3 (single ratio direct drive as above. Only one in NZ so far.)

Honda e (single ratio direct drive. Only 2 in NZ so far)

BMW 3 series wagon. (Not small)


Apparently the back seat in the toyota 86 is no good for people with legs.

Frankly If you want a modern car you are going to have to give up one of the following: manual, rwd, small hatchback.

 
 
 

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  #2578372 2-Oct-2020 23:41
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Utes are no fun if you like corners compared to a car. I hate driving mine in the wet.





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  #2578468 3-Oct-2020 09:35
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FoNX:
Also eyeballing 86s, impractical but still 4 seats right? What about boxer engine, any good? Also manual ones are still pricey so if I drive one I'll have to save but will still be on the list, thanks!

 

Yes, 4 seats but very limited on legroom unless you have very short people up front, that's largely why I got rid of mine.  Fun as a daily drive but whenever we wanted to go somewhere with more than 2 people, had to switch to the boring family wagon.  Boot space is OK, big enough for a weekly grocery shop for the family

 

The engine is good, there was a recall on the older ones that wasn't handled that well by Toyota NZ.  They're fast enough to be fun but not rocket ships


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  #2578493 3-Oct-2020 10:19
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what about a subaru levorg gts


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  #2582327 10-Oct-2020 15:18
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levorg is big, heavy and not manual.

 

used bmw 1-series, not much room but fun, reliable and cheap.

 

120d, 123d, m135i

 

 


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