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#290504 16-Nov-2021 07:18
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Anyone can recommend whether or not to apply GardX - i understand it as ceramic coating - on car paint?

 

Also offered interior coating on carpets and leather seats. I can't see the point of that as the constant abrasions would just remove the application?


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  #2813600 16-Nov-2021 07:26
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I paid for it on a new car some years ago. Skipped it on another new car last year. I see it as just up-selling at checkout by the dealers. It's pretty expensive at about $1,000 and I don't think it adds much at all - there's certainly nothing visible - you can't see what has been done (or even whether it's been done). The factory finish on new cars is very good these days (clear-coats etc) and this is not needed IMO.





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  #2813606 16-Nov-2021 07:42
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hmm. ok, the marketing is pretty powerful on these things! i was convinced after reading!


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  #2813607 16-Nov-2021 07:44
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I had an interesting discussion with a dealer when I got my Corolla. I got the Dura seal of whatever they call it but I wanted them to leave one fender not covered. To see the difference, but I think he thought I was joking and it wouldn't be possible the way they apply it he reckoned.
Either way I think it's a bit of a con. I suspect the key to paint longevity is probably keeping it in the garage.



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  #2813609 16-Nov-2021 07:46
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hmm might spend the money on the towbar then?

 

any other takers?


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  #2813611 16-Nov-2021 07:50
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'Con' is a good word.





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  #2813612 16-Nov-2021 07:52
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  #2813615 16-Nov-2021 08:06
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The Gardx is a wax based product and Duraseal is ceramic based.

Why the dealers are pushing Gardx as anyone can apply it and not stuff it up. Ceramic based protection you need to apply and remove reasonably quickly or it will cure and damage the paintwork.

The product is only around $70 to buy and the dealer obviously makes a mint from it.

If you are keen to get it. I would suggest a car valet place, as they don’t seem to charge the margins the dealers want.




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  #2813623 16-Nov-2021 08:36
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Delorean: The Gardx is a wax based product and Duraseal is ceramic based.

Why the dealers are pushing Gardx as anyone can apply it and not stuff it up. Ceramic based protection you need to apply and remove reasonably quickly or it will cure and damage the paintwork.

The product is only around $70 to buy and the dealer obviously makes a mint from it.

If you are keen to get it. I would suggest a car valet place, as they don’t seem to charge the margins the dealers want.


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  #2813628 16-Nov-2021 08:55
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Ceramic coatings are awesome - we have it on 2 of our cars but wouldn't spend 1k on it! 


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  #2813632 16-Nov-2021 09:01
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dt:

Ceramic coatings are awesome - we have it on 2 of our cars but wouldn't spend 1k on it! 



@dt: What should it cost? And are you assuming application via a valet service provides a decent mix of quality application at a decent price?

We’re wanting to get a Model Y when they finally are released here, so this is also something I’ve been thinking about.

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  #2813634 16-Nov-2021 09:04
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I got ceramic coating done through a detailer, I wouldn’t waste money on it again

While it makes water bead like crazy it doesn’t do anything at preventing scratches. You can achieve good water beading with regular cleaning and off the shelf products

The other problem is if you get any panel damage it has to be removed before painting and applied again after painting

 
 
 

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  #2813772 16-Nov-2021 10:10
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We had the dealer "throw it in" as part of our car purchase a few yers back, who says no to free stuff.

 

What are they saying it will cost, as there is a line where sure why not vs nope a rip off..





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  #2815005 18-Nov-2021 08:36
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I don't like Guard X.

I do have Beeds ceramic on my work vehicle and highly recommend that. I also had 3M paint protection film applied to the high risk areas to prevent stone chips etc which I also recommend.

One blow over with the snow cannon and a rinse and the car looks like I spent a week polishing it!





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  #2815055 18-Nov-2021 09:50
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jonathan18:

@dt: What should it cost? And are you assuming application via a valet service provides a decent mix of quality application at a decent price?

We’re wanting to get a Model Y when they finally are released here, so this is also something I’ve been thinking about.

 

 

 

We had ours done at the dealerships they did a really great job - it's been a few years now and can't remember what we paid but I think it was in the ball park of $300 - $400

 

Our cars still look amazing and they don't get anywhere near as dirty as cars we've owned without the coating on them.. and when you do have to clean them there is much less effort and they're back to looking brand new

 

I think it can come down to the quality of the ceramic coatings and the skill of the people that are applying it to get the best result

 

the BMW dealer swore he couldn't go any lower on it for us as they had to get a specialist in to apply it for them

 

We liked it enough that when we got the missus a new car we had VW apply the coating to her car as well and it came out just as good

 

 


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  #2815068 18-Nov-2021 10:10
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dt:

 

jonathan18:

@dt: What should it cost? And are you assuming application via a valet service provides a decent mix of quality application at a decent price?

We’re wanting to get a Model Y when they finally are released here, so this is also something I’ve been thinking about.

 

 

 

We had ours done at the dealerships they did a really great job - it's been a few years now and can't remember what we paid but I think it was in the ball park of $300 - $400

 

Our cars still look amazing and they don't get anywhere near as dirty as cars we've owned without the coating on them.. and when you do have to clean them there is much less effort and they're back to looking brand new

 

I think it can come down to the quality of the ceramic coatings and the skill of the people that are applying it to get the best result

 

the BMW dealer swore he couldn't go any lower on it for us as they had to get a specialist in to apply it for them

 

We liked it enough that when we got the missus a new car we had VW apply the coating to her car as well and it came out just as good

 

 

 

 

do you rcall the name of the product?


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