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#310458 21-Oct-2023 09:53

Will the new speed cameras that record average speed result in a new boy racer game where kids stop and wait after the first camera, then go like a bat out of hell past the second? At least it should improve their maths skills.

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#3150724 21-Oct-2023 10:24

Dunno - does that happen anywhere else these type of cameras are installed?

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#3150727 21-Oct-2023 10:32

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Dunno - does that happen anywhere else these type of cameras are installed?

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#3150789 21-Oct-2023 13:00

Rikkitic:

Will the new speed cameras that record average speed result in a new boy racer game where kids stop and wait after the first camera, then go like a bat out of hell past the second? At least it should improve their maths skills.

The camera might still be able to measure current speed, you'd have to do your excess speed somewhere in between.

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#3150816 21-Oct-2023 15:22

"Safety" cameras.

No matter what system is used, there will always be idiots.

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#3150850 21-Oct-2023 18:17

scuwp:

there will always be idiots.

An eternal truth, unfortunately.

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#3150854 21-Oct-2023 18:31

Rikkitic:

Will the new speed cameras that record average speed result in a new boy racer game where kids stop and wait after the first camera, then go like a bat out of hell past the second? At least it should improve their maths skills.

nothing new about it. the old truckie trick of booting it and then stopping before the 2nd for their rest break.

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#3150864 21-Oct-2023 20:15

How do they prove you were on a legal road for the full duration of the zone? You could have loaded your car into a helicopter and got there quicker than the allowed average speed :)

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#3150866 21-Oct-2023 20:43

There's a set of new camers on SH2 just by the interchange with SH1 Pokeno and another set by the first passing lane at the Mangatwahiri turn off. Thought these might be them but they aren't listed as part of the group.

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#3150917 21-Oct-2023 20:56

coffeebaron:

How do they prove you were on a legal road for the full duration of the zone? You could have loaded your car into a helicopter and got there quicker than the allowed average speed :)

It probably would make more sense to pay a speeding fine than risk mentioning the helicopter.

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#3151171 23-Oct-2023 00:22

coffeebaron:

How do they prove you were on a legal road for the full duration of the zone? You could have loaded your car into a helicopter and got there quicker than the allowed average speed :)

A legislative change that says that it's a strict liability offence, and that the mere fact that it's impossible to travel between the two points on the road in the time detected by the calibrated cameras legally. Then it's on you to prove how you achieved such. That's how all Australian jurisdictions achieved it.

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#3151184 23-Oct-2023 05:17

HelloThere: There's a set of new camers on SH2 just by the interchange with SH1 Pokeno and another set by the first passing lane at the Mangatwahiri turn off. Thought these might be them but they aren't listed as part of the group.

Wouldn't surprise me if they were, those would bookend a 90kph zone.

EDIT: After googling...

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/safety/partners/speed-and-infrastructure/safety-cameras/safety-camera-rollout/

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Waka Kotahi equipment installed to collect baseline data

Waka Kotahi has begun speed surveys in the Waikato. Cameras have been installed at two roadside sites on State Highway 2 between Pōkeno and Mangatāwhiri.

The survey uses two ANPR (automatic number plate recognition) cameras. The cameras will be removed within two weeks.

We want to understand the speed people travel at and how frequently people travel above the posted speed limit. This will help validate if these sites are suitable for safety cameras in the future.

The cameras will gather counts of vehicles travelling at various speeds. They are not being used to identify drivers or owners of vehicles or to issue infringements.

The cameras are owned and operated by an independent supplier. Waka Kotahi will never receive any images or information that identifies any vehicle or person. All images and data collected by the supplier will be destroyed within a month.

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#3151194 23-Oct-2023 08:15

Maybe time for some anti number plate reading devices :)

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#3151204 23-Oct-2023 08:54

coffeebaron: Maybe time for some anti number plate reading devices :)

I see quite a few on the road daily, from polerised covers to polerised spray.

It may be more pronounced as my driving glasses are polerised but I see several cars with deliberate number plate obsecuring every day.

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#3151209 23-Oct-2023 09:24

You see attempts to obscure. Whether or not they are successful is another matter. I see a common method claimed to defeat cameras is a reflector tape on the white parts of the plate. In NZ the white of the plate is already reflective. If any of these devices actually work they'll soon become a problem on toll roads and force a reaction.

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#3151412 23-Oct-2023 11:50

coffeebaron: Maybe time for some anti number plate reading devices :)

Digital camera technology such as it is now I suspect wouldn't be affected by the films and screens of days of old. You would need something pretty sophisticated.

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