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  #3383067 12-Jun-2025 08:17
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This is not a surprise. What is a surprise is how little has been done about it. 

 

And just recently the government has seen fit to increase the speed limit on my residential street from 30 to 50, despite there being both a primary school (600+ students) and a kindergarten present too. 





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  #3383075 12-Jun-2025 09:12
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This is not a surprise. What is a surprise is how little has been done about it. 

 

And just recently the government has seen fit to increase the speed limit on my residential street from 30 to 50, despite there being both a primary school (600+ students) and a kindergarten present too. 

 

 

 

 

Yes, Simeon hath decided that the speed limit past Hatfields Beach - where the showers and toilets are across the road from the beach, which is also a freedom camping site - must be raised to 70. Bizarrely, it then goes down to 60 for the next bit of road towards Waiwera which is mostly fine at 80, which is what it used to be in The Olden Days.

 

Also, on the northern gateway, only the old bit of it - between Orewa and the tunnels - has been raised to 110. The brand new bit between the tunnels and Warkworth is 100.

 

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  #3383079 12-Jun-2025 09:33
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Buses have the same problem in spades. Maybe vehicles need automatic warning devices triggered by pedestrians like deer whistles or Ride of the Valkyries.




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  #3383080 12-Jun-2025 09:57
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This is where maybe there should be external airbags as standard. 

 

Or perhaps we should ban children. 

 

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  #3383085 12-Jun-2025 10:16
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Behind the fence is safer. Wasn't there a problem with external airbags firing the pedestrian off into other lanes?


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  #3383086 12-Jun-2025 10:29
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Bung:

 

Behind the fence is safer. Wasn't there a problem with external airbags firing the pedestrian off into other lanes?

 

 

 

 

A modern SUV would go straight through the fence without noticing. You need to be behind one of these.

 

 

 





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  #3383091 12-Jun-2025 10:43
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SaltyNZ:

 

Yes, Simeon hath decided that the speed limit past Hatfields Beach - where the showers and toilets are across the road from the beach, which is also a freedom camping site - must be raised to 70. Bizarrely, it then goes down to 60 for the next bit of road towards Waiwera which is mostly fine at 80, which is what it used to be in The Olden Days.

 

Also, on the northern gateway, only the old bit of it - between Orewa and the tunnels - has been raised to 110. The brand new bit between the tunnels and Warkworth is 100.

 

SMH...

 

 

i find this speed limit variations on the same stretch of roads really interesting, too. when the so-called "smart motorway" was launched in wellington, the rule was/is to stick to the advertised, variable speed limit for the entire stretch and your travel will be smoother. yet in other places, the posted speed limit changes on the same stretch. of course, school zones have a different valid reason, but on highways or national roads it can be confusing.

 

 


 
 
 

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  #3383093 12-Jun-2025 10:49
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Bung:

 

Buses have the same problem in spades. Maybe vehicles need automatic warning devices triggered by pedestrians like deer whistles or Ride of the Valkyries.

 

 

never driven a bus, but i would've thought that buses with no bonnets, large windows that go down to the driver's knees, and the driver sitting much closer to the front of the vehicle makes this less of an issue for them. driver fatigue from doing this for hours do potentially lead to inattention.

 

audible warnings, these days, are also compromised and sometimes defeated by those headphones/earphones on pedestrians' heads/ears.

 

 


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  #3383095 12-Jun-2025 11:01
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Maybe they could just force SUV's etc to have lower bonnets. Perhaps as an added bonus they'd be even uglier and hence less of a status symbol. You can have plenty of space without height, remember the station wagon...





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  #3383096 12-Jun-2025 11:01
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Vulnerable road user protection is part of the ANCAP criteria. A five star ANCAP rating has more credibility than anti SUV hysteria. 


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  #3383099 12-Jun-2025 11:13
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SUVs are worse for pedestrians than cars. Do something about it.





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I opted for the child slider protective bar.  gently relocates said object to under the vehicle, keeping the front pristine

 

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  #3383105 12-Jun-2025 11:45
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rb99:

 

Maybe they could just force SUV's etc to have lower bonnets. Perhaps as an added bonus they'd be even uglier and hence less of a status symbol. You can have plenty of space without height, remember the station wagon...

 

 

 

 

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  #3383106 12-Jun-2025 11:47
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hsvhel:

 

I opted for the child slider protective bar.  gently relocates said object to under the vehicle, keeping the front pristine

 

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It's too bad science has not yet figured out how to have the child and moose sliders on the same vehicle. Just like nuclear fusion and solid state batteries, the combination child/moose slider always remains just over the horizon.





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  #3383108 12-Jun-2025 11:49
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alasta:

 

Vulnerable road user protection is part of the ANCAP criteria. A five star ANCAP rating has more credibility than anti SUV hysteria. 

 

 

i tend to agree with your assessment of ANCAP ratings. however, i don't know if this particular risk is part of the criteria - visibility of children lingering or taking longer to cross before vehicles, pedestrian lanes or otherwise.


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