Help with car ownership..

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tj12345

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#65013 27-Jul-2010 20:37

I made a really stupid mistake. Three months ago I sold my car through trade me. So I contact the buy via txt..
So the deals goes. We met and I got the cash. I complete the bottom part of MR13 form and give the top part for him to fill. As he said he will deal with it, so i just gave the bottom part to him as well to be posted (I know... i just realise this is big mistake)..

So I get the cash, he got the car.. And I forgot everything.. just today I recieved a letter from NZTA saying i need to renew the license of that old car.... My first thought is the buyer hasn't really transfer the ownership.. So I dont have the car and I dont know where the car is...

Do you have any advise what to do? I am really screwed since I lose all his contact details... : ((

nakedmolerat

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#357362 27-Jul-2010 20:44

call the police and report it as stolen

johnr

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#357368 27-Jul-2010 20:49

nakedmolerat: call the police and report it as stolen

You want to get the OP arrested for making a false police complaint?

tj12345

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#357394 27-Jul-2010 21:23

agree... i think reporting as stolen vehicle is not a right move... i dont want to get into more trouble... any other suggestion? I will call nzta first thing in the morning...

Pilgrim3

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#357411 27-Jul-2010 22:10

I don't see your problem.
You got the cash.Right?
He got the car.Right?
If he hasn't transferred the ownership the worst that can happen is you have to prove you wern't driving the care when he does something illegal with it.
If you can afford it there is nothing to stop you transferring the ownership at any time.
I f you can't afford it or can't remember his details write to the NZTA

https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/ChangeOwnershipSeller/entry.aspx

being very apologetic and ask how to complete the change of ownership.

No problem.

Bung

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#357428 27-Jul-2010 22:18

Pilgrim3: I don't see your problem.
You got the cash.Right?
He got the car.Right?
If he hasn't transferred the ownership the worst that can happen is you have to prove you wern't driving the care when he does something illegal with it.
If you can afford it there is nothing to stop you transferring the ownership at any time.
I f you can't afford it or can't remember his details write to the NZTA

https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/ChangeOwnershipSeller/entry.aspx

being very apologetic and ask how to complete the change of ownership.

No problem.

Aren't there a whole lot of offences where the owner of record is responsible for the fine?

I don't think ringing them and saying someone else has it but I don't know who it is would get you very far.

scuwp

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#357431 27-Jul-2010 22:20

If you fill out the form as the seller and send it in (MR13A?), and provide the new owners details, the NZTA will register the vehicle as "Persons Unknown" or "not confirmed". This way you will not be held responsible for any tickets etc.

Then when the new owner re licences it they will have to fill out the ownership form.

Next time don't hand over the car until they show you the receipt showing the change of ownership has been completed.

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

tj12345

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#357442 27-Jul-2010 22:31

The stupid thing i did was... I gave the buyer my filled MR13A form because he said he will go to post office immediately... I was too naive I know... Now after 3 months I dont even remember his name...

Try to re-fill the MR13A form again... but cannot because I dont know his details..

Thanks for your input though...

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tj12345

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#357445 27-Jul-2010 22:36

scuwp: If you fill out the form as the seller and send it in (MR13A?), and provide the new owners details, the NZTA will register the vehicle as "Persons Unknown" or "not confirmed". This way you will not be held responsible for any tickets etc.

Then when the new owner re licences it they will have to fill out the ownership form.

Next time don't hand over the car until they show you the receipt showing the change of ownership has been completed.

Does it work if i left the owner details in MR13 A form and send it to NZTA?

richms

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#357468 27-Jul-2010 22:56

Well, he will either reregister it or you will have to deregister it to avoid any furthur peneltys. Do you still have any of their details?

Richard rich.ms

tj12345

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#357866 28-Jul-2010 17:56

Call NZTA this morning. Say I have sent my part... so of course they said they didn't receive.

Turn out to be an easy process. Just give some details then they will change car ownership to "unknown".. I will get a letter to be kept in case someone make a fuss about it. Happy ending :)