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#74541 1-Jan-2011 21:46
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My partner forgot to register her car and it expired yesterday. Apart from VINZ, VTNZ, Postshop and the AA, is there anywhere else that she could do it before Tuesday that will be open? Online is not an option as it takes up to 5 working days to get the rego card sent out.

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  #423265 1-Jan-2011 21:49
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Do it online, aslong as its purchased, and you print out your receipt, you are more likely to get compliance offered by the police officer, and accepted by the Police Infringement Bureau.

And I am sure you mean, forgot to renew the licence, it is already regsitered.



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  #423269 1-Jan-2011 21:54
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rscole86: Do it online, aslong as its purchased, and you print out your receipt, you are more likely to get compliance offered by the police officer, and accepted by the Police Infringement Bureau.

And I am sure you mean, forgot to renew the licence, it is already regsitered.


Yep, renew the licence.

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  #423270 1-Jan-2011 21:54
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My WOF expired the other day on my bike. I am just about to ride it up North tonight actually. I will worry about getting a new WOF when I get back. Any reasonable police officer will see its only just expired and the bike is just 12 months old the other day.



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  #423282 1-Jan-2011 22:40
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I hope you come across one of those then...... Laughing




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  #423283 1-Jan-2011 22:43
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Yes But if you do it online it updates it in the system normally overnight so if a police officer Goes 3T with you (Pulls you over) and does a QVR (Query VOI and vehicle registration) over the radio coms will says it's currently licensed so that means your legal No fines for you. 
As long as it's up to date in the system they wont give you a fine as for the rego card you can get one printed off at a nz post shop for free so you dont have to wait for the one in the mail.

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  #423284 1-Jan-2011 22:43
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johnr: My WOF expired the other day on my bike. I am just about to ride it up North tonight actually. I will worry about getting a new WOF when I get back. Any reasonable police officer will see its only just expired and the bike is just 12 months old the other day.


A Car without a valid WOF, even 1 day overdue, is an excuse for the insurance companies to not pay out should you be involved in a crash or anything. A Car without a WOF should not be on the road, therefore why should your insurance pay you out for it if the car is stolen or damaged? Not worth the risk.  

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  #423285 1-Jan-2011 22:46
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Nokia2012: Yes But if you do it online it updates it in the system normally overnight so if a police officer Goes 3T with you (Pulls you over) and does a QVR (Query VOI and vehicle registration) over the radio coms will says it's currently licensed so that means your legal No fines for you. 


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Except for the fact you are now displaying an incorrect licence label, which is different offence. Both $200 though.

 
 
 

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  #423291 1-Jan-2011 23:01
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rscole86:
Nokia2012: Yes But if you do it online it updates it in the system normally overnight so if a police officer Goes 3T with you (Pulls you over) and does a QVR (Query VOI and vehicle registration) over the radio coms will says it's currently licensed so that means your legal No fines for you. 


Smile 


Except for the fact you are now displaying an incorrect licence label, which is different offence. Both $200 though.


Good point how ever I would highly doubt he would give you a ticket for that. Normally they will be reasonable if he can see your doing the right thing. And if you display an assertive attitude towards the police officer and the law.

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  #423292 1-Jan-2011 23:04
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rscole86:
Nokia2012: Yes But if you do it online it updates it in the system normally overnight so if a police officer Goes 3T with you (Pulls you over) and does a QVR (Query VOI and vehicle registration) over the radio coms will says it's currently licensed so that means your legal No fines for you. 


Smile 


Except for the fact you are now displaying an incorrect licence label, which is different offence. Both $200 though.


But you are more likely to get let off or have the fine waved if you can prove you have gone to reasonable lengths to keep your car registered.  I also agree with doing it online, and printout the receipt on the dashboard.

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  #423301 2-Jan-2011 00:00
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I'd be a bit careful around this time. Last night my mate on his restricted got pulled over at 10:15 because you aren't meant to be out past 10PM. Cop ticketed him right then and there when most would let you off if you're going home. They're more likely to be strict because they're having to work over new years and that so take it out on every one. lol. My rego expires in a week or so I think.

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  #423303 2-Jan-2011 00:08
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BraaiGuy:
johnr: My WOF expired the other day on my bike. I am just about to ride it up North tonight actually. I will worry about getting a new WOF when I get back. Any reasonable police officer will see its only just expired and the bike is just 12 months old the other day.


A Car without a valid WOF, even 1 day overdue, is an excuse for the insurance companies to not pay out should you be involved in a crash or anything. A Car without a WOF should not be on the road, therefore why should your insurance pay you out for it if the car is stolen or damaged? Not worth the risk.


This is not really correct I don't have time to write about it right now but someone I know had an accident with a WOF that expired 3 - 4 weeks and the accident was his fault and state insurance paid out no issues.

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  #423305 2-Jan-2011 00:23
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johnr:
BraaiGuy:
johnr: My WOF expired the other day on my bike. I am just about to ride it up North tonight actually. I will worry about getting a new WOF when I get back. Any reasonable police officer will see its only just expired and the bike is just 12 months old the other day.


A Car without a valid WOF, even 1 day overdue, is an excuse for the insurance companies to not pay out should you be involved in a crash or anything. A Car without a WOF should not be on the road, therefore why should your insurance pay you out for it if the car is stolen or damaged? Not worth the risk.


This is not really correct I don't have time to write about it right now but someone I know had an accident with a WOF that expired 3 - 4 weeks and the accident was his fault and state insurance paid out no issues.



Yes i think it is that the car has to be in warrantable condition not that it has to have a WOF

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  #423307 2-Jan-2011 01:09
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semigeek: (snip) Online is not an option as it takes up to 5 working days to get the rego card sent out.


Do it online, as soon as VTNZ/etc open on Wednesday (some may open Mon/Tues but they are technically holidays for most), head in, and ask for a print out of the licence sticker.  Take the print out to say you've paid with you whereever you go in the mean time, if a cop does try and ticket you, ask him where you could get the sticker on a public holiday ;).  Same goes if a parking warden tickets you for not showing correct licence (iirc the Auckland ones can do that).

We do this so we can pay the fee w/ a Credit Card which most places seem to reject for licencing (too much of a liability I guess as they likely wouldn't be within their rights to cancel the licence if the transaction got reversed.)

Personally though, I think NZTA have got it wrong, they should offer a temporary 10-15 day printable cut-out sized label, obviously police would have to radio in to check it's validity but it'd give enough time for the proper one to arrive.  (Yeah I know, easy to forge etc but yeah....)

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  #423441 2-Jan-2011 17:24
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BraaiGuy: 
A Car without a valid WOF, even 1 day overdue, is an excuse for the insurance companies to not pay out  


No it's not in general.

Insurance Law Reform Act 1977, section 12.  

It broadly states that in order to decline a claim, the reason for the decline must be causative or contributory of the reason for the claim.

The presence or not of a current WOF does NOT give an insurance company an excuse, it is not relevant.  

In other words; The insurance company would have to say, "this accident happened in whole or in part because you did not have a current WOF today", which can be countered by "I had a current WOF yesterday, ergo, the having or not having of a WOF is not causative or contributory". 

The actual physical condition of your vehicle prior to the accident may be relevant depending on the nature of the claim, but having or not having had a visual inspection of that is not relevant.

In other words; The insurance company says, "this accident happened in whole or in part because your tyres were bald", they are well within their rights, and would quite rightly laugh at your protest "but I have a WOF!" because once again, it's not relevant.






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  #423452 2-Jan-2011 18:07
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I think this has gotten a bit off topic,

A WOF is not the same as a rego.

A better comparison would be Diesel road mileage. I have been pulled up twice on long trips where I have just gone over my mileage so I brought some online and printed the receipt as it takes 5 days to get here and both occasions the cop has given me compliance for 7days for it to arrive. It is usually over night when it updates to LTNZ so if you get pulled over and the cop radios in you will be fine and legal. But if you can provide the cop a receipt of the rego they will most likely not even radio to coms and let you be.


That said if you struck a bad cop who tickets you, you could dispute it and if you can prove you had brought a current rego before the time you were ticketed you should get it let off.

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