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# 250891 30-May-2019 10:17
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Just saw this for NL queens bday sales.

 

 

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/televisions/televisions/ultra-hd-televisions/60-69-uhd-tvs/samsung-qa65q7fnasxnz-65-qled-ultra-hd-4k-smart-led-television/prod163117.html

 

 

what are peoples thoughts on QLED vs OLED?

 

 

looking to upgrade my 55" plasma and wanting to go to 65", but OLED is just so pricey atm at this size.

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  # 2248298 30-May-2019 10:24
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yeah I was searching OLED vs QLED yesterday and didn't get very far other than QLED gets much much much brighter ...

 

in that dead end search I also discovered that not all OLED and not all QLED are the same! eg TCL has a QLED but it's nowhere near Samsung's technology so, yeah any ideas?





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  # 2248319 30-May-2019 11:01
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Sony 65" x9000f (aka X900F) is supposedly a better TV than the Q7 and is $150 cheaper currently.

 

 

 

Would suggest:

 

Dark room -> OLED.

 

Bright room -> LED with full array backlight





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  # 2248321 30-May-2019 11:04
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does QLED do complete black?





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  # 2248322 30-May-2019 11:06
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The Q7 doesn't have Elite Dimming like the Q9. The Q9 is a significant OLED competitor.

 

 

This is an OK price, but I'd go Q9 as the Elite Dimming is amazingly fast and does true black.

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  # 2248334 30-May-2019 11:24
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Agree q9 is the best, but I think they've cleared stock of all the q9 for the next model, if only someone was selling a second hand one ;)





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  # 2248414 30-May-2019 12:35
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Got a Samsung 65" Q9 mid dec last  year.    I dont really care about the difference between QLED and OLED.  However, this QLED is really really good in the lounge area which has a lot of windows and sunlight that streams in.  I can now watch TV that is so clear now without pulling the curtains closed.   There is a little reflection but it is barely noticeable.   The black appear black enough for me.    Best purchase i've made in a long time.




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  # 2248467 30-May-2019 13:36
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kiwijunglist:

 

Sony 65" x9000f (aka X900F) is supposedly a better TV than the Q7 and is $150 cheaper currently.

 

 

 

 

 

 

so this LED is better than a QLED? do you have any reviews/comparisons you can link between these 2 tvs?


 
 
 
 


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  # 2248643 30-May-2019 18:25
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I've sort of kept up with what's going on. I can try give you a summary.

 

Plasma has pure blacks. But they stopped making them a few years back. I bought a 4K edge lit LED LCD that reviews said were close to picture quality a few years ago. It was edge lit. Horrible, I couldn't stand it. Black scenes were horrible - S08E03 Games of Thrones would probably be unwatchable. I ended up buying a second hand 65" plasma - much better picture quality.

 

OLED is similar to plasma in that pixels are turned off. Pure black. But they can't go as bright as LCD's. Probably fine for most rooms though. They've had issues with burn in and blue organic pixels degrade faster than the others. So life on them isn't as good as plasma or LCD. Though I spoke to a salesman recently and he seems to think they've mostly got the burn in sorted in the last year or two with the new panels. Said they'd seen lots of burn in before, but so far the new ones seem fine. (Whatever that's worth.)

 

QLED is just a better version of LED LCD, that gets more vibrant and wider range of colours. Usually found in higher end TV's with good local dimming (many zones). There are a range of models though, and tech between brands is probably quite different. From the little I've looked in stores the high end Samsung panels look 90% as good as the LCD's. Blacks are pretty close. But still pricey, maybe 80% the cost of OLED. I'd probably lean that way at the moment - trade-offs seem worth it or acceptable to me.

 

You probably also want decent HDR (not all HDR equal).

 

This dual panel LCD tech looks very promising...
https://www.cnet.com/news/look-out-oled-hisense-unveils-dual-lcd-tv-tech-aimed-at-lower-price/

 

For OLED's they're working on new organic materials that last longer. So may solve those issues eventually.

 

Micro LED is another tech that could be the future. Samsung has done some big expensive TV's the last 2 years - mostly as a demo. These are not organic, and basically getting all the benefits of OLD (pure black), high brightness, while they don't degrade, and could also be much cheaper to produce. It's only recently they've been able to make LEDs small enough to use as pixels.

 

But in short good QLED can be close in image quality to OLED. Pros and cons to each.


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  # 2248649 30-May-2019 18:49
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If contrast and black levels matter to you, OLED.

 

If not, either.

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  # 2248711 30-May-2019 20:06
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lctham:

kiwijunglist:


Sony 65" x9000f (aka X900F) is supposedly a better TV than the Q7 and is $150 cheaper currently.


 



 


so this LED is better than a QLED? do you have any reviews/comparisons you can link between these 2 tvs?



X900F is better than q7 qled.

Lots of online review sites online, you could have a look on rtings.




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  # 2248720 30-May-2019 20:34
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Where is there any information published on the flicker that these screens have? Ive got massive issues on my several year old LG that basically mean that its eystrain inducing when low brightness onscreen. Flicker not as bad as an old CRT or my crap panasonic small TV that claims flicker is a feature.





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  # 2249520 1-Jun-2019 11:44
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lctham:

 

kiwijunglist:

 

Sony 65" x9000f (aka X900F) is supposedly a better TV than the Q7 and is $150 cheaper currently.

 

 

 

 

 

 

so this LED is better than a QLED? do you have any reviews/comparisons you can link between these 2 tvs?

 

 

 

 

QLED is just marketting BS for Quantum Dot, which is branded TRILUMINOS under Sony (which X9000F has).

 

 




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  # 2250349 3-Jun-2019 13:49
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Saw this today at HN

https://www.harveynorman.co.nz/tv-and-audio/televisions/oled-televisions/panasonic-65-oled-4k-smart-tv.html

Panasonic currently has $400 cashback on this model making it $3488.

Chepaest Ive seen for a 65" oled. What are peoples thoughts on this oled?

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  # 2250358 3-Jun-2019 14:12
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lctham: Saw this today at HN

https://www.harveynorman.co.nz/tv-and-audio/televisions/oled-televisions/panasonic-65-oled-4k-smart-tv.html

Panasonic currently has $400 cashback on this model making it $3488.

Chepaest Ive seen for a 65" oled. What are peoples thoughts on this oled?

 

this model was voted best oled of 2018 in a few places





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