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#302831 26-Dec-2022 09:25
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Note before buying this, you might want to consider installing a permanent heatpump. Importantly get one a HEPA filter, as it would add value to your house.

Noel Leemings, 50% off
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Sunbeam Fresh Protect Air Purifier
Model: SAP1000WH Product Id: N211609
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Filters
Model: SAPF360D Product Id: N211610
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I accidently came upon this deal, for a HEPA air purifier, and more importantly, the filters.

Just like a razor and printers, the expendables are what kill you.

It's even cheaper then JBHifi by a good margin, and I couldn't find it cheaper on eBay.

The following video, besides looking ugly, is debatable on how much you'd save by 3D printing the housing. You'd also lose the UV light. Note the Youtube creator got it a tiny bit wrong, because the filter is designed to suck air from the middle, not blow it.



Do not be fooled by "air purifiers" that are not HEPA. Moreover any ionizer is dangerous, because of the reactiveness of ozone, but the UV light is a nice touch.

Dangers of Ozone and UV light


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  #3013987 26-Dec-2022 09:36
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Could you please link the product? Thanks a lot!



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  #3013988 26-Dec-2022 09:39
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dacraka: Could you please link the product? Thanks a lot!

 

Sunbeam Fresh Protect Air Purifier

 

Sunbeam Fresh Protect Air Purifier Filter


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  #3013991 26-Dec-2022 11:04
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Do not be fooled by "air purifiers" that are not HEPA. Moreover any ionizer is dangerous, because of the reactiveness of ozone, but the UV light is a nice touch.

Dangers of Ozone and UV light

 

 

 

most UV lights used also produce ozone.

 

ozone is not great because it reacts with everything in the house and one of the common byproducts is formaldehyde. its also not god for you to breathe in as it reacts with any living tissue (which is why it also kills bacteria and viruses).

 

also most UV setups are to small for the amount of airflow, or to small for the space, so they don't really do a whole lot. stick with hepa filters.

 

couple of my heat pumps have nanoe ionizer/hydroxal units and i have to turn that off because it makes my throat sore (breathing in ozone). 




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  #3013995 26-Dec-2022 11:53
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Dicksmith/kogan have one for the same price which is smarterhome so uses the tuya app - no idea how much info it gives you on the app, filters look similar sized but that can be hard to tell

 

https://www.dicksmith.co.nz/dn/buy/kogan-smarterhome-bladeless-purifier-fan-kogan/

 

https://www.dicksmith.co.nz/dn/buy/hepa-filter-kogan-smarterhome-bladeless-purifier-tower-fan/

 

 





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  #3013998 26-Dec-2022 12:33
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We just price matched and got one of these from JB hifi. After a couple of weeks of nasty hayfever in Christchurch and it taking a hammer to my enjoyment of Christmas we thought it was worth the purchase if it helps reduce those allergens at all.

We ended u going for this one as it says it's good for 46m² whereas most others I looked at in this price range could only manage 25m². Seems alright so far and think it's starting to help clear the hayfever a bit, not sure if it's a placebo though. Only issue I can forsee is it seems a bit noisey to be on in a bedroom all night, also slightly annoying it's capacitive buttons so on a power cycle it won't restart itself, so I can't use it with a smart plug to turn on at certain times.

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  #3014453 28-Dec-2022 00:09
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By all means get one. But if the motivation has anything to do with covid, it will achieve nothing. A few months ago I worked in an office which had these portable air purifier things and both my colleagues got covid.

 

Where they may have value is hayfever. I am affected by this. I use a Electrolux C9 Allergy Vacuum from Harvey Normans.

 

I did consider a air purifier and found the Mitsubishi seemed to be the best option but its made in Japan so costs a pretty penny at around $1,200.





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  #3014464 28-Dec-2022 07:25
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To update so far I definitely think it's helping the hayfever, Christmas day I was sneezing all day to the point of straining my chest with very sore eyes. Since plugging the thing in the symptoms have significantly subsided to the point of almost not needing an antihistamine if we stay at home. Went for a walk and I could feel the allergy coming on but getting home again it's eased back up.

Honestly tempted to get another one for the bedroom, if it can maintain this reduction in the allergy it's absolutely worth the $200 as it was bordering on dehabilitating forcing me to stay indoors away from the pollen, at least now I don't leave the house preagitated so can enjoy going outside and by the time I'm done it's only just getting minor symptoms instead of further escalation.

Noise wise I'm leaving it on 1 overnight and sleeping fine, sure there's a slight fan noise but it's no worse than a fan on that setting. It is loud on higher settings though so sounds like we have a constant extractor fan on in the living room. The biggest problems is the toddle loves to investigate it and so far hasn't attempted to jam anything in the vents, if that happens I'll have to find a higher home for it.

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  #3014536 28-Dec-2022 11:30
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everettpsycho: 

We ended u going for this one as it says it's good for 46m²

 

 

 

Can you provide a link please?


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  #3014538 28-Dec-2022 11:35
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Jaxson:

everettpsycho: 

We ended u going for this one as it says it's good for 46m²


 


Can you provide a link please?



I meant the sunbeam one the original post is about

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/p/sunbeam-fresh-protect-air-purifier/N211609.html

Looks like noel leeming sold out so I've ordered a second one from smiths instead to save moving them about. Also stocked up on the filters while they are $35 so I'm good for a couple of years hayfever season now I think.

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  #3014546 28-Dec-2022 12:29
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everettpsycho: To update so far I definitely think it's helping the hayfever, Christmas day I was sneezing all day to the point of straining my chest with very sore eyes. Since plugging the thing in the symptoms have significantly subsided to the point of almost not needing an antihistamine if we stay at home. Went for a walk and I could feel the allergy coming on but getting home again it's eased back up.

Honestly tempted to get another one for the bedroom, if it can maintain this reduction in the allergy it's absolutely worth the $200 as it was bordering on dehabilitating forcing me to stay indoors away from the pollen, at least now I don't leave the house preagitated so can enjoy going outside and by the time I'm done it's only just getting minor symptoms instead of further escalation.

Noise wise I'm leaving it on 1 overnight and sleeping fine, sure there's a slight fan noise but it's no worse than a fan on that setting. It is loud on higher settings though so sounds like we have a constant extractor fan on in the living room. The biggest problems is the toddle loves to investigate it and so far hasn't attempted to jam anything in the vents, if that happens I'll have to find a higher home for it.

 

i suspect what you could do with is a ventilation system with hepa filters. reduce the amount of pollen getting into the house to start with. air sealing the house as much as you can would also help, reduce the amount of pollen coming in from "natural ventilation".


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  #3014549 28-Dec-2022 12:36
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MichaelNZ:

 

By all means get one. But if the motivation has anything to do with covid, it will achieve nothing. A few months ago I worked in an office which had these portable air purifier things and both my colleagues got covid.

 

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yeah, the old put air purifiers in schools etc is a bit of a joke. mostly because they are at ground level, so they tend to pull air past people allowing people to breathe it in as it goes past.  you really want it mounted up high so its all pulled up away from the people. 


 
 
 
 

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  #3014553 28-Dec-2022 12:49
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tweake:

i suspect what you could do with is a ventilation system with hepa filters. reduce the amount of pollen getting into the house to start with. air sealing the house as much as you can would also help, reduce the amount of pollen coming in from "natural ventilation".



Can't disagree with that, we only moved in to a new build a year ago so upgrading the house isn't on the cards anytime soon. Had I know how bad the pollen would be where we've moved to I would have probably incorporated it in to the build but it's only this last month it's been really bad so these are doing fine for now until we consider adding a filtered air system down the line. I didn't actually think it would work as well as it has so now I know it's definitely something to consider when the house is a little older and we consider making changes.

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  #3014564 28-Dec-2022 13:32
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everettpsycho:
tweake:

 

i suspect what you could do with is a ventilation system with hepa filters. reduce the amount of pollen getting into the house to start with. air sealing the house as much as you can would also help, reduce the amount of pollen coming in from "natural ventilation".

 



Can't disagree with that, we only moved in to a new build a year ago so upgrading the house isn't on the cards anytime soon. Had I know how bad the pollen would be where we've moved to I would have probably incorporated it in to the build but it's only this last month it's been really bad so these are doing fine for now until we consider adding a filtered air system down the line. I didn't actually think it would work as well as it has so now I know it's definitely something to consider when the house is a little older and we consider making changes.

 

thats something that grinds my gears a bit, ventilation and heating/cooling an optional extra on new builds. its always more difficult and expensive to retrofit than install when being built. more so with the multi story builds they are pushing these days. its about time they made fixed heating and mechanical ventilation mandatory for new builds.


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