I am a ETNZ fan through and though, but I can't help but feel for Italy today. That second race would have been absoloutely soul destroying.

When TNZ went into the water, I don't think there were many that thought they would win that race.  I thought at the time only a mistake could save them, and even then....

3puttssuck: Bring back proper sail boats from days gone by. This is farcical and comes down to luck IMO.

Pretty clearly not. It came down to skill - screw up a manoeuvre and you pay.

Yeah that was a roller coaster of a race , loved it.

networkn:

 

I am a ETNZ fan through and though, but I can't help but feel for Italy today. That second race would have been absoloutely soul destroying.

 

When TNZ went into the water, I don't think there were many that thought they would win that race.  I thought at the time only a mistake could save them, and even then....

 

 

 

Both teams had the same bad luck, and that is part of the racing with these types of boats, that they will fall off the foils. But it was more due to them sailing in very light conditions.  They have made the boats like this so there are very small margins of error in certain conditions, and if they do make an error, or wnind conditions change then they will pay.But I remember old americas cup races with larger monohulled boats, and there were times when the wind completely dropped, and they end up being stranded hardly moving at all, and time ran out. If the wind dropped more,  and both came off the foils again, then the race would have been cancelled due to running out of time. So these sorts of things aren't new. People just have short memories, especially if they say this was the most memorable cup race in history. One of the most memorable days for me is when the Australian boat actually broke in half and sunk, as they were all pushing the technology. Also when TNZs boat almost sunk, when it started taking on water during normal racing, due to apparently not doing enough testing on the design, leading to us losing the cup.  But many people are too young to remember or just have short memories.

networkn:

 

I am a ETNZ fan through and though, but I can't help but feel for Italy today. That second race would have been absoloutely soul destroying.

That's light air sailing for you in Akl. Sometimes he who prays hardest to Huey wins.  But I have little doubt that if the wind had stayed up at the level of the first race, then Luna Rossa would have been trounced twice anyway, TNZ were much faster.

I'm guessing that there'll be no race tomorrow, the wind forecast looks very light.  Now while that might be good for them having a day off, the forecast wind all day until late evening (when a SW arrives) looks too weak to test any tweaks.

Wednesday (ENE) and Thursday (E) looks like around 10 knots at 4pm.

It looks like the series will be over before we get to see these boats race at anywhere near the top end of the range.  I can't see any stronger winds in the gulf through to next week.

Nail biting again. I watched on crappy TV One, will rewatch on YT. Edge of technology stuff, be careful how you sail/race to the edge. Interesting how with a smaller front sail (less power but less drag at speed) and smaller foil, we got up quicker than LR. The wind was no doubt a bit lower then, but that's a big swing. 

The grinders looked *shattered*. I am in awe of lots of professional sportsmen, but I can't imagine what it would take to grind in those conditions.

networkn:

 

The grinders looked *shattered*. I am in awe of lots of professional sportsmen, but I can't imagine what it would take to grind in those conditions.

 

Well if you were allowed to use trained chimpanzees instead of humans, it would take lots of snacks - but never bananas.

Fred99:

networkn:

The grinders looked *shattered*. I am in awe of lots of professional sportsmen, but I can't imagine what it would take to grind in those conditions.

Well if you were allowed to use trained chimpanzees instead of humans, it would take lots of snacks - but never bananas.

It may be a silly question, but here goes:

On the TV1 live coverage of the racing, there is the fairly loud hash buzzing or grinding sound very frequently - what actually is causing that?  It's probably coming over the radio feed; are the boats themselves actually that loud?

jamesrt:

It may be a silly question, but here goes:

On the TV1 live coverage of the racing, there is the fairly loud hash buzzing or grinding sound very frequently - what actually is causing that?  It's probably coming over the radio feed; are the boats themselves actually that loud?

jamesrt:

 

It may be a silly question, but here goes:

 

On the TV1 live coverage of the racing, there is the fairly loud hash buzzing or grinding sound very frequently - what actually is causing that?  It's probably coming over the radio feed; are the boats themselves actually that loud?

 

Straight line?

Strain forces on the carbon and mast stays I think. Accentuated when the mainsil is shifted under hydraulic ram.

When they are tacking, there is added noise of the hydros charging the Canter arms

jamesrt:

 

It may be a silly question, but here goes:

 

On the TV1 live coverage of the racing, there is the fairly loud hash buzzing or grinding sound very frequently - what actually is causing that?  It's probably coming over the radio feed; are the boats themselves actually that loud?

 

Yeah its the hydraulics its been mentioned on tv a couple of times. You would think they would be able to filter that noise out during broadcast.