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  #2851062 15-Jan-2022 01:31
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It looks like he'll be detained tomorrow and have a hearing on Sunday. 

 

 




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  #2851066 15-Jan-2022 04:15
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billgates:

 

SERVED

 

 

More a half volley at this stage.





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  #2851078 15-Jan-2022 08:31
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Let and challenge. Awaiting hawkeye.



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  #2851114 15-Jan-2022 12:34
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ABF are clowns for the basic mistakes they made with the original cancellation. They needed to make sure they dotted every I and crossed every T, especially with this particular scenario, but they didn't.

 

I understand that now the minister has exercised his personal power to cancel a visa that that's basically it, and the court action will basically be a waste of time. 

 

I personally really, really hope Djokovic gets the boot, and a 3 year ban from returning to Australia, and that this deportation means he needs to declare and explain he's been deported and had a visa cancelled every time he crosses and international border.


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  #2851122 15-Jan-2022 13:04
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Wow what is up with the government's lawyer ?? , Seems like a wet blanket with no get up and go.

 

I would want somebody with a bit more fire in their belly if I was arguing on behalf of the minister.





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  #2851135 15-Jan-2022 13:47
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JaseNZ:

 

Wow what is up with the government's lawyer ?? , Seems like a wet blanket with no get up and go.

 

I would want somebody with a bit more fire in their belly if I was arguing on behalf of the minister.

 

 

According to NZ Herald Dorkovich has a diplomatic passport care of Serbia. That would complicate border matters probably.


 
 
 

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  #2851144 15-Jan-2022 14:26
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according to this his visa is not cancelled for being unvaccinated, his visa is being cancelled for being a poor role model and promotion of anti vax sentiments if he remains

 

since his court is Sunday he could still win the case and play on Monday!

 

https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/live-novak-djokovic-to-be-detained-after-immigration-minister-cancels-tennis-stars-visa/news-story/966f834ff685c50a667a90cfc50fc829

 

 


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  #2851146 15-Jan-2022 14:40
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so i watched the court session today, it was to discuss terms and conditions for tomorrow's sitting. different judge, different lawyers for both parties it seems.


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  #2851152 15-Jan-2022 14:57
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Batman:

 

according to this his visa is not cancelled for being unvaccinated, his visa is being cancelled for being a poor role model and promotion of anti vax sentiments if he remains

 

since his court is Sunday he could still win the case and play on Monday!

 

https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/live-novak-djokovic-to-be-detained-after-immigration-minister-cancels-tennis-stars-visa/news-story/966f834ff685c50a667a90cfc50fc829

 

 

 

 

You can't adjudicate based on his vaccine stance. The rules are that non symptomatic Covid does not allow quarantine free entry. Filled in tick boxes wrong. Mixed when was infected. Travelled with a timeframe he didnt disclose. Either he will get greater freedom than Australians, or he wont


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  #2851154 15-Jan-2022 15:22
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You can't adjudicate based on his vaccine stance. The rules are that non symptomatic Covid does not allow quarantine free entry. Filled in tick boxes wrong. Mixed when was infected. Travelled with a timeframe he didnt disclose. Either he will get greater freedom than Australians, or he wont

 

 

In this instance, the decision to cancel his visa was made based on his stances and behaviour. For example, that he attended an interview in person with a journalist the day after supposedly being informed he had a positive COVID PCR test (by his own admission) despite that being an offence in his native Serbia was "strongly in favour of cancellation", given it demonstrates that ND is unlikely to follow Australia's COVID rules, and that the general public may take it as carte blanche endorsement to ignore the rules if Australia won't enforce them in such a high profile case.

 

I have seen news articles speculating that if he gets the decision overturned (I don't see how he can, but that's what courts are for I guess?) then the Minister may just exercise another power to cancel his visa on the basis of the false information. The government isn't currently arguing that position.


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  #2851156 15-Jan-2022 15:23
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If the Minister has broad discretionary powers under an Act to revoke a visa, does the court actually have any authority in this? Would appreciate if someone who understands could explain.


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  #2851164 15-Jan-2022 16:10
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In that court sitting Djokovic's lawyers argued for a 3 panel judge where the state want a single judge.

 

It's my understanding the state want a single judge so if it goes against them they can appeal that but with a 3 judge panel the answer is final.





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  #2851171 15-Jan-2022 16:40
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cshwone:

 

If the Minister has broad discretionary powers under an Act to revoke a visa, does the court actually have any authority in this? Would appreciate if someone who understands could explain.

 

 

let me explain. if you have money anything is possible. if you have no money everything is final.


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  #2851173 15-Jan-2022 16:46
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Batman:

 

cshwone:

 

If the Minister has broad discretionary powers under an Act to revoke a visa, does the court actually have any authority in this? Would appreciate if someone who understands could explain.

 

 

let me explain. if you have money anything is possible. if you have no money everything is final.

 

 

Yup if it had been anybody else they would be gone already and if they appealed it would not be delt with in a few days.





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  #2851174 15-Jan-2022 16:52
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this clip at the end says some people have been detained for years still waiting for their day in court while this dude can summon the court to show up on Sunday

 


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