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6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202071 1-Mar-2024 14:38

Dochart: It will be a miracle if we can get to 200 runs. Lost of 3 wickets in under 6 overs is not good. Need Young and Mitchell to score double hundreds or rain helps us out.

I think its quite likely we will lose 2.5 days at best (from our perspective), but I didnt expect 14-3, another 1 day even with 17 wickets feels unlikely, which sounds nuts I know. That front cant arrive fast enough, I hope tomorrows 2 day forecast goes from grey to black for 3 days ;-p

Thorak

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Master Geek

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#3202079 1-Mar-2024 14:56

We have always, and will always be, bottlers against Australia.

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202097 1-Mar-2024 15:09

Marsh at avg 40 is not even all rounder quality, needs to go for runs. Thats who they target as the ball starts to soften.

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202122 1-Mar-2024 16:17

Can GP save NZ's bacon yet again, while still being over looked with the ball and asked to bat at 7....... I think even for him this is too much.

He could take a 5fa, score a 50 and take 2 absurdly ridiculous catches critical to winning a Series and Southee is "GP" who? (sarcasm)

Good to see Blunders make some shots, he looks 5x the player when he bats offensively.

If KJ had been in this team, aus could have been rolled sub 100. Frustrating.....

Starc is starting look ominous, hes like Southee at mid 140s

Edit: Oh no, Lyon to Blundell, he will start prodding....

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202144 1-Mar-2024 16:59

GP you legend, putting some pride into the badge, unlike the top order.

3/9 innings 50+ avg 45 all from #7, Bowling avg 19, easily the most athletic fielder including match wiining catches.

Rachin

1/11 innings above ~13, at avg 37 from #4, Bowling avg 36, the most unathletic fielder I can ever remember and loves dropping matches with his inability for catches.

I WANT Rachin to succeed, but hes gotta start delivering, out for 0 off 3 balls yet again today.

Now Blundell and Kugs have THROWN their wickets away, GP essentially has to try and score as many as quickly as possible.

Henz can bat, chance of a draw still there. Updated forecast will be telling.

edit: GP with his own bowling could learn a lot from Lyon here, given he delivers the same ball. Which given the turn Lyon is getting, one would question, not a single over from Tim.

Henz, such a clean hitter, TONK 6. But high score 70ish and avg 25, dont be backing away from Cummins.

Edit: I do wonder if that runnout from Williamson/Young, could be the end of Young, who was also needlessly strangled down very wide leg siide. But I missed the runnout aside from a replay so not sure whose fault it really was? But never seen Kane looked pissed before lol.

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202164 1-Mar-2024 17:36

Bad luck GP, hard to keep bouncers that high down.

I have no doubt if he wasnt carrying the weight of the team often at #7 and rather batting up the order, he would have two tons to his name by now.

Southee will hole out as usual, or run Henry out.

But looking at Lyon's turn, Southee best be giving GP the ball.

Edit: and there it is "Southee will hole out as usual", only 21 needed to avoid the follow on. sigh. Im starting to wonder if we are better of with Sears than Southee, give the captaincy to Mitchell in the interim.

Edit: 4 more Tez, to avoid it.......... noooo OUT

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202388 2-Mar-2024 13:56

Well, rain is not going to save the BC's even with possible heavy rain later and overnight, looks like the wind is going to blow during today and tomorrow, so the rain could fall either sides of match play, so cant play for time. Mon looks like it could have been a wash out, but dont see it getting that far.

Poor Southee drops the centurian Green on the caught and bowled, NZ just not their match for luck.

Proud to see them bowling better though. Good to finally see GP in and taking the wicket and creating chances, if he hits that foot mark to the left hander, it should entice a drive but the ball should turn even more than it already is.

The wicket outside spin looks pretty good for batting, but a record win as unlikely as it is, it would be good just to see them score a losing 250+.

They are the best in the world, but I feel had KJ been there, we would have had them out a lot earlier in the first innings as the Basin is the best pitch for his style of bowling. Not to be.

Edit: GP is class in every aspect of cricket. So close to wicket 4 :-( exactly where I suggested outside off. His avg of 19 pre match, currently 10 now with 30-3.

The aussies talking up GP, a shame his captain always waits until its a bit late. The guy supposedly bowling an hour or two prior to play, during lunch etc. You can't keep the guy out of the game even in the field.

Edit: and again, GP floats it to the spot for the left hander and GP is now 35-4. Superb catch from Southee.

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k1w1k1d

1520 posts

Uber Geek

#3202393 2-Mar-2024 14:18

Southey third time lucky!

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202396 2-Mar-2024 14:26

k1w1k1d:

Southey third time lucky!

Lol indeed, not to mention the gimme he dropped in the T20s just after Rachin shelled a keeper.

They need to get GP in as the team fielding coach with his hands and speed along the ground hehehe. True athlete.

Wind is getting up now. GP into the wind could be a good thing with flight.

Eeeeek has O'rourke blown a hammy?

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202398 2-Mar-2024 14:31

YOU BEaUTY GP !!!!!!!!!

5fa, 5-38, but more importantly the centurian and last batsman Green.

GP had so many doubters, shhhhhhhhhh his actions do the rebuttal.

I dont think he will stop bowling either, 13 overs in.

NOOOOO Kugs drops the 6th.

edit: That close up of GP watching Kugs shell as easy as they get, just somes him up, team player, he looks with hope, Kugs shells it, GP smiles.

GPs bowling avg down to 14 now, who needs KJ at avg 19 rofl (frustrated as he would have helped finish them off). Bat avg ~47 now. Dont even mention how many runs he saves per match with his wheels and how many stupidly incredible and vital top order catches hes taken since in the side. Could take the Gloves if Blundell was injured. Genuine all rounder.

Oh what the .... Nicholls sub fielder now drops GP's 6th. That should be 7 now. Frustrating.

Edit: Latham dont drop em, Henry a second wicket. One more lads and if NZ bat like they should be capable of, actually would have a chance on only 2.5 day hard basin pitch.

Two lefties out there with the foot holes, you would have to back GP here, hes gotta be fit to bowl an hour before play, then during lunch plus these 15 overs.

Really getting annoyed at commentar calling him a part timer, he is in the team as THE all rounder.

GP first time for a spin 5fa in NZ in 16 years (and should have 7).

Onya Macca for putting the other commentator saying he is proving he is far more than a part timer. I know they mean it with spite, its what a few of the auto pilot commentary have been spewing. The aussies are impressed.

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202407 2-Mar-2024 15:05

Starc clean bowled Henry with 3 wickets - I remember when Henz avg was in the 40s, it must be getting close to 30 post this test.... 5-70 first innings.

GP just, incredible. Love watching offies like Lyon and GP. 5-45, shoulda been 7-45 with two simple catches dropped. In saying that Will Young took two rippers in close.

Cmon top 5, put on 250 and you never know, as unlikely as it is 369.

Very proud after watching the first innings bowling, where GP didnt get a bowl. Now GP is saying how good a captain Tim is.

IMO, GP in the future could be a fantastic captain. He has some Baz about him with his aggressive style and as a bowler he knows where to put the fielders.

Im not liking our chances as Lyon is going to turn it like Beckham like GP was, but still enough to be proud about, bowling out the worlds best for 168, while gifting them 30 odd at that.

If O'rourke tightness in hammy is an issue, we could see Lockie or Sears at Hagley, that would be a real handful.

BJ spot on, NZ have dropped 150 runs in catches and 41 extras. NZ coulda, shoulda, woulda won this quite comfortably.

Edit: Latham is starting to join Conway, Blundell, Rachin. GP surely has to get in ahead of Blundell so he has more chance to put on a quick ton than having to slog it with the Bowlers in the Tail......

vexxxboy

4244 posts

Uber Geek

#3202490 2-Mar-2024 16:26

if NZ make it past 200 i will be amazed

Common sense is not as common as you think.

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202493 2-Mar-2024 16:37

vexxxboy:

if NZ make it past 200 i will be amazed

Yep without Kane, you have Mitchell and GP, the others are too inconsistent to be relied upon. Im hoping Young can anchor though.

Lyon is bowling that ball across the right hander that turns sharply back in, its a real wicket taker delivery Im hoping GP picks up on playing against Lyon. Brings in essentially all modes of dismissal. also the slider is one GP could use more. Dont get me wrong, he clearly has predigous turn and flight, and brutal for lefty's to face. But for the right handers, I think if he can push it across and straigten sharply, he isnt just relying on a mistake from the batsmen in that case.

Will be interesting, NZ at this stage lost the test by gifting 200 runs with 5 dropped catches and 41 extras. Fielding and low extras use to be something NZ took pride in.

If Orourke pulls up short for the second test, KJ is out, that is wicket takers we will miss. But do we Bowl wags or do we put a Starc like player in Lockie or Sears? Given how many overs GP and Rachin can take off their plate, short sharp wicket taking spells could be the go imo. aus are too good to fall for Wags short ball traps, especially now hes lost a fair chunk of pace.

Dochart

804 posts

Ultimate Geek

#3202495 2-Mar-2024 16:44

Wagner might end up playing the next test so he could still play his last game for NZ. I don’t think they will risk either Sears or Lockie as they have just recently come back from injury. Could bring in someone who is performing well in domestic but I feel that’s unlikely and Wagner will get a go if O’Rourke is injured as there is no other bowler who could perform a similar job.

Any idea if this pitch is going to get better for batting. The last time a spinner got a 5 wickets haul at the basin was in 2006 by Vettori against SL. I wonder if the bad weather has caused the pitch to be better for bowlers particular with the spinners which has caused the low batting scores.

TeaLeaf

6325 posts

Uber Geek

#3202502 2-Mar-2024 17:20

Dochart: Wagner might end up playing the next test so he could still play his last game for NZ. I don’t think they will risk either Sears or Lockie as they have just recently come back from injury.

Sears is a good prospect imo. Matt Fisher has an interesting start to FC too. If they want to win they need more than Henry and GP. Risk and Reward etc. Orourke could just be tight with no tear, I havnt been listening the last hour.

The Basin is a turning pitch, but not usually this early, in saying that, off break bowlers (Lyon, GP etc) tend to get far more turn than the left arm orthodox (Rachin, Santer, Vettori), then you have the likes of Warney (rip) who cant turn it every which way they please. I didnt see Rachin getting more turn than what I would expect. Its a pretty good batting pitch still.

No excuses, NZ dropped the match while gifting way way too many extras. Would have been a very different game if NZ had not let themselves down in the field, possibly chasing 169 instead of 369..............

Edit: On another note, the delivery from Lyon that got Williamson is the exact delivery I was saying GP should put into his bag vs Right handers. around the wicket across the face, straightening against the angle, bringing in LBW, clean bowled along with the close in catching options.

Edit: This is the Test Rachin must prove himself, a match winning double ton vs the best team in the world is a lot different vs essentially FC bowlers who were not even impressive at that level on the whole.

Edit: Lyon nearly clean bowled Mitchell with the delivery I mentioned above. Gaz is a class spinner.

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