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  #3446030 20-Dec-2025 17:06
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thermonuclear:

 

Patel getting little support from his captain and the field. 

 

 

For me Latham has set overly defensive fields. I also do not understand Patel bowling 25 overs of arm balls when GP has had 5 overs of genuine turn off the pitch. The first patel wicket was simply sillyness off a wide batsmen stepped into it and bounced of the pad back toward the stumps, this last wicket was just an arm ball the batsman tried to play across the line. Averaging 40 off arm balls is not what the team requires right now, like you said the fielding needs to help out.

 

Is GP injured? If not you would expect given the cracks widening and the turn he gets both ways, is it something Latham has against him? (I didnt see if he strained his groin or such, if not, disappointed)

 

edit: even Patel is turning it a little now, the entire team missed hearing an edge. Come on get GP on at the other end unless hes off the field, this is absurd. What I was going to say earlier was Id like to see Patel and GP get the ball down below 80kph which Patel is now bowling some which makes loop and spin much more pronounced. WI tail ender is not playing the spin well at all, so bizarre they missed that nick. But good to see Latham "finally" get more men around the bat.




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  #3446186 21-Dec-2025 12:22
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Fantastic batting from WI on a very difficult wicket, given their #4 and arguably best has been ill all week so no surprise he was out quick, given pretty much all avg in the 20s and their bowling leader has a hamstring strain.

This innings from NZ wont have much time to put on 200ish (375 lead declare), or once again will be left short of time to bowl WI out. The wicket is now doing so much unpredictable bounce and cracks for the spinners.

Why is GP in the side as the batting/spin 5th bowler if you are only going to give him a couple of overs here and there (5 is absurd)? He is an attacking bowler who needs decent spells to set players up, otherwise his bowling avg is just going to rise. Especially given the shape of the pitch which suits GP perfectly. Likewise batting him behind Blundell is absurd and will just keep lowering his batting avg. Play him or dont select him. Giving Ajaz endless overs is just silly when you have two spinners who can take wickets. 

 

Blundell was untidy with the gloves, Mitch Hay's tidiness was apparent by not missing a trick, even standing up to the wickets with Mitchell bowling. When nobody says anything about a WK you know they are doing their job well.

Its going to be interesting who they select for the upcoming Tour, I think KJ will be there, hopefully Henry. Im not sure on O'roukes fitness or Matt Fisher, Sears is playing white ball at the moment. So I think we have "some" options to challenge Eng batting. But we have to extend our batting which for me means GP at 6, Hay plays WK at 7 and KJ bats at 8.


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  #3446231 22-Dec-2025 07:54
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I think we should have batted with more purpose in the 2nd innings, if this match ends up a draw then we only have ourselves to blame





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  #3446232 22-Dec-2025 08:25
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RR of 5.6 vs on an up and down pitch and a team bowling defensively is pretty good going. 


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  #3446380 22-Dec-2025 14:58
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lachlanw:

 

RR of 5.6 vs on an up and down pitch and a team bowling defensively is pretty good going. 

 

 

True. Although the Openers needed to be batting more like an ODI, Conway got on with it in the end (I think SR 76ish in the end), Williamson was slow to begin with then started playing shots and got to ODI scoring, Rachin came in and went T20 immediately, I think he hit three 6s in one over. 

I do think given this test like the first was always going to come down to Time, for me its not so much the run rate that frustrated me, it was the absurdly late Declaration. 375 was ample with a team whose best player averages 29 and most of the top 6 are mid 20s, along with an ill Hope and an injured frontline bowler. 

 

I think NZ batting too long in the first test and the WI #7 scoring a double ton got to Latham and he became overly defensive.

 

WI were 87/0 today and Latham had an overly defensive field, did he think WI were going to score 390 in 2.5 sessions? He needs to apply more pressure with guys all around the bat for the spinners and a full slips cordon and mid on etc for the pace bowlers.

 

It looks like we are going to get away with it again like that Test vs Pak that Santner won for us in the last over a few years ago.

 

Edit: And there it is, 2nd over GP bowls through the gate and takes the poles. I think if Latham had not won this one as well, under bowling GP would also be a factor to consider. Lovely from GP, its nuts to watch in slow mo, it drifts away with the flight, then lands and turns sharply.


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  #3446381 22-Dec-2025 15:19
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The pitch is starting to turn now. There was nothing in the first 4 days was a complete batting pitch till the 5th day. 


 
 
 

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  #3446388 22-Dec-2025 15:48
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Potentially a smart move not to rush KJ back in. I think Henry, O'rourke and Matt Fisher may not be too far away while KJ is bowling in FC red ball and Ben Sears is about to start a 6 match white ball tourn in Melb. NZ has some serious depth right now in all regards, but they are going to need the very best for both Eng and Aus. 6.GP 7. Mitch hay, 8. KJ, 9. Henry, 10. Duffy 11. O'roruke. I think that is our current best for Eng and Aus with potentially Sears offering speed and Matt Fisher being fairly quick being options, all depending on each individual injuries.

 

With Mitch Hay being a WK averaging 48 in FC and both openers Latham/Conway hitting form, we have a serious chance of winning this WTC series. Such shame to not finish off the first test after the injuries but so good to see Conway hitting big runs finally. Rachin seems to always be there abouts, possibly Kane might have wanted better along with Mitchell but Im sure thats just how cricket goes. With a quality top 6 and a solid mid-tail, it looks promising.


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  #3446471 22-Dec-2025 18:15
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The cracks in the pitch by the end of the day were insane. It was like walking on a bunch of badly installed coblestones, each one would move on its own and you could actually get your fingers well down in between some of the cracks. I didn't think to take a photo (or video) but I'm sure they will turn up all of social media quickly.

 

Great initiative from the Bay Oval ground staff to allow everyone to come out and look at, walk on, and generally molest the pitch at the end of the day.





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  #3446483 22-Dec-2025 19:58
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Yes indeed. End of day 2 they started. Day 3 the light roller you could see the movement as it went over them, lift like you say.  :-).

I was very surprised to see GP under bowled and Rachin somewhat, given those insane platelet cracks it was a spinners paradise. I guess they will get plenty of bowling in the white ball.

Nice to have WI here, they are always good with the crowds, I think most teams in fact who tour NZ enjoy themselves.

 

Its strange to think no more Tests and its not even the new year. Off to Ind to play T20 to get ready for the upcoming WC, our squad will be interesting over there given the injuries. Maybe it is why Ben Sears is playing a white ball comp in Melb and KJ didn't play this series. A few of the bowler injuries must be coming right fairly soon.

 

Then back home for the SA white ball tour of NZ and off to Eng in June for a WTC series.


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  #3447737 29-Dec-2025 12:20
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Some solid batsman in FC first half this year.

 

Is there any way for Nicholls to get back in the test team? He is producing runs, I would like to know how many times he has been dropped by the fielders on average haha.

 

Early days, but Bevan Jacobs for Auck is averaging ~53 after 18 innings, watching him play t20 and spank ND for 22 runs off one over only to finish 55 by stepping back onto his stumps, his shots remind me a little of Guptill, very classy long lever shots. But definitely one to watch for NZ red and white ball. 

George Heaphy also seems to be having a good start, at only 22yo he has already had 41 FC innings at avg ~47. Like BJ Jacobs he is also producing in white ball with ~53avg in ODI and ~30 in T20. Hes more measured than the swashbucking Jacobs though.

Mitch Hay we all know about avg ~53 this season so far and ~49 overall. While Blundell has avg 22 so far this FC season. Not to mention the 61 Mitch Hay scored on debut and the 99no in an ODI. What does it take for Blundell to step aside......

Rhys Mariu hasnt had a good first 7 innings this year at avg ~26, but given hes now had 41FC innings and still averaging ~56, I cant see him not getting a call up soon. 

There are plenty more but I just wish you could search by Age as well as stats per competition. We have 4 top-mid order batsman on the potential edge of retirement and a couple of them did not avg anywhere near 50 let alone 40. IMO its time we give others a chance to have a 10+ year career in Test cricket. Im not saying drop players who are now in form, but Blundell could be replaced. I sense Latham and Mitchell, possibly Conway and Williamson might retire this WTC. If all 4 leave and we havnt got young talent in and around the team we lose our team culture of stepping up from FC cricket, we need that culture to survive to the next generation team.

 

Just get these excellent young players in and around the team. 






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  #3450622 7-Jan-2026 18:29
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Loving the Super Smash this year.

There are some big time players who have been great in the Red Ball FC too. Auckland despite missing half of their best players looks something very different with Dale Phillips who has landed on his feet this season and Cam Fletcher moving up to Aucks. Is a shame Glenn Phillips moved to Otago now his brother has moved from Otago to Aucklaand haha. Auckland have had two matches rained out after posting a 200+ in each of their 3 innings and 2 completed matche, sit at the top.

Dale Phillips two 30s and then a 77 around SR200. Auckland also have the amazing young talent of BJ Jacobs, he has had 3 x50s in a row with that last one being something special and all 3 looking like Mr Guptill, who is in the team. Not to forget Deene and Cam Fletcher at 6 who averages 36 at around 140. Its not hard to see why the Aces are dominating and on top of the table.

Glenn Phillips, batting left handed, what the, yeh he is when he wants he reckons but he looks good. Switch hitter is serious modern Cricket and he is owning it. A top score of 90no is in the top 3 (his brother 5th), with his sparkling #1 average of 114 so far. When it comes down back to earth no doubt the 90no helped the avg, while BJ Jacobs with his 3x 50s in 3 innings is averaging 54 (no surprise haha). Seriously BJ Jacobs has to make the black caps and if Dale Phillips keeps up his form in white and red ball he may well be there too, with what is simply NZ's most versatile and arguably most talented all round in Glenn Phillips. 

 

Some great scores today by Bruce and Dane Cleaver 95no and Nick Kelly given how bad Welli are playing hit a 95no. 

 

In bowling news it look like Henry and Lockie Fergusson might miss the t20 WC due to paternity leave :-(. Happy for them of course.


 
 
 
 

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  #3450724 8-Jan-2026 11:28
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NZ Squad for the T20 World Cup

 

Mitchell Santner (c)
Finn Allen
Michael Bracewell
Mark Chapman
Devon Conway
Jacob Duffy
Lockie Ferguson
Matt Henry
Daryl Mitchell
Adam Milne
James Neesham
Glenn Phillips
Rachin Ravindra
Tim Seifert
Ish Sodhi
Traveling reserve: Kyle Jamieson

 

Really disappointing to see Robinson and Jacobs fail to make the sixteen for the World Cup. I see Stuff are reporting Robinson averaged 44.66 at a strike rate of 144.6 in 2025, including the century against Australia. His recent form in the Super Smash has been poor though. Neesham is well past his use-by and should have been discarded by now, how he continues to get selected when he rarely performs is a mystery. The favouring of experience over form continues and will see the white-ball trophy cabinet continue to remain empty.

 

I see Robinson, Jacobs and Foulkes have been selected for the T20 series against India immediately prior to the World Cup, presumably to cover the unavailability of Seifert, Allen and Milne. Will be very interesting to see how Neesham goes in these games and whether Robinson and Jacobs get a chance to actually play, given they aren't staying for the World Cup and that squad is already cast in stone barring injury.

 

Will also be interesting to see if NZ can beat Afganistan this time. First game of pool play and they failed to secure the win against them last time around. Hard to bet against India and Australia being the finalists. South Africa should also be strong. 


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  #3451399 9-Jan-2026 19:35
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thermonuclear:

 

whether Robinson and Jacobs get a chance to actually play, given they aren't staying for the World Cup and that squad is already cast in stone barring injury.

 

 

To be honest Id rather see BJ Jacobs play super smash, unless they plan to make last minute room for him in the WC. Form in all 3 formats and reminds me so much of Guptill with those super long levers and classical shots both over the rope and along the deck.

I think the Coach is just being super conservative with the selections. I suppose there is some rationale behind that...........

 

But yeh.


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  #3452029 11-Jan-2026 21:03
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1st ODI about to start, NZ batting, Nicholls opening.


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  #3452876 14-Jan-2026 12:50
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thermonuclear:

 

1st ODI about to start, NZ batting, Nicholls opening.

 



Was a close one, I thought NZ's 300 was a pretty good score.

 

The last Cant vs Auck T20 with Latham? First the bowler definitely touches a straight drive and hits the wickets running Latham out, yet some how the TV guys couldnt find the reverse angle (what the), then Latham gets one off his gloves which Cam Fletcher caught which the bowler appealed but umpire didnt even go upstairs, Auck essentially lost due to it but was high scoring with Auck down 4 wickets very early I thought no way they chase 217, but BJ Jacobs and Cam Fletcher got them to 200.

BJ Jacobs simply has to be in the WC Squad, hes on 5 x 50s in a row, only Conway equals that record. Currently averaging 40 at SR  150. I dont mind a bit of Matt Boyle, Robinson and Mariu. Jacobs and Mariu are tall, classical hitters, modern Guptills but I think they will go well in our Test squad and with Mariu being an opener and Jacobs a 4, I think NZ needs to start getting them in the Test squad so they understand the culture.

 

Cant 12/2 in the second Cant vs Auck game today so far.

Dale Phillips is as good a fielder as his brother GP, his batting opening is coming along nicely too, not Blackcaps, but if he shows consistency this season he could be in the mix for the future. Handy bowler. They almost Twinsies with batting and bowling, but GP is a bit better with the ball.

Im surprised by Johal for Auck, has come out of nowhere, he has a short run up but seems to get spring from the ball out of nowhere, fantastic action with bolt upright at delivery, which means less likely back injuries. Leading wicket taker so far. 

 

Edit: watching Cam Fletcher for Auck I am absolutely miffed he never got the top job for NZ, what an awesome wicket keeper and batsman, great stumping to remove Mariu. Cant in big trouble now 4 down for not much.. but now the younger guy is in the system it seems unlikely, possibly the could use Cam for t20s, not sure, but he has had an amazing career for Cant/Auck.


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