Amosnz:

 

tdgeek:

 

Camera view is now useless

 

Scratch that, was just Alonso's camera is lower and offset

 

 

RBR driver camera view is definately useless.

 

Fernando is not RBR!

josephhinvest: Hartley on track during P3 this afternoon. Just now in fact :) thankfully the rain has stopped, at least for a while.

I have it recording, subject to WAF! 

I'm fizzing actually. I get the Mercedes thing but I see it as the whole package. Even last season while the Mercs were out front, the SkySportF1 cameras were elsewhere. 

Im hoping BH does well, keeping in front of PG.

But, I feel so sorry for Alonso. Gave up on Ferrari and they came good. Stuck with Honda/McLaren and now the Honda looks more than ok with Torro Rosso.

Compare that with Seb V. Left RBR with 4 titles, and Ferrari look good. 

tdgeek:

 

Amosnz:

 

tdgeek:

 

Camera view is now useless

 

Scratch that, was just Alonso's camera is lower and offset

 

 

RBR driver camera view is definately useless.

 

 

Fernando is not RBR!

 

Well aware of that! From the parts that I saw the RBR camera could see even less than McLaren.

Amosnz:

 

tdgeek:

 

Amosnz:

 

tdgeek:

 

Camera view is now useless

 

Scratch that, was just Alonso's camera is lower and offset

 

 

RBR driver camera view is definately useless.

 

 

Fernando is not RBR!

 

 

Well aware of that! From the parts that I saw the RBR camera could see even less than McLaren.

 

Fair enough. I saw Alonso and OMG this is useless. Posted. Oops, its actually ok. /tdgeekfail   I'll check tonight :-)

Well Quali was ok. Mercedes engine mode too good, but you can't run the race on that mode, so race pace looks very close for the top three teams.

Great race with an interesting twist. Pity the vision mixers at Sky NZ are so useless, played ads in the middle of skyf1 segments, then played repeats of other programs over 2 sections of the post-race programme. Aggggh! Missed some of the great analysis by the UK skyf1 team. I can't believe I pay for this appalling service.

Was a great race. Clearly Seb gained through the VSC, the VSC is a very very dumb idea. Markelov won in Monaco like this, he was well out of play, VSC came out and he was in front and won

Again Mercedes is the fastest car in clear air, and when they get pole they should win, unless luck comes into play. Again, when not leading they are just another top car, nothing special. Given the grid at the pointy end has closed up, they now HAVE to get pole and HAVE to lead all the way.

Ferrari look great. Kimi liked his car, Seb isnt that happy, but they can still hang with Mercs if Mercs are in front. And they can hold Mercs behind

RBR look really good. Max would have been in the mix but for his mistake.

McLaren are back. While Danny Ricc was close behind he never looked like making a banzai pass. Vandorne was only 7 or so seconds behind Alonso as I counted a few laps from the finish 

Haas look ominous in the race behind the top three teams.

VSC needs to be looked at. You get the VSC flag, you slow down so the race is neutralised, but its not. You are on a slow bend at 80k, you slow down, I am at 325k, I slow down, but I wont be slowing down too quickly..... I gain a lot of distance. When the push the VSC button, they need to lock in the time difference a car is behind the one in front, that driver needs to maintain that then run a VSC speed. If the car in front pits, you stay at the time difference that you were behind what is now the car in front when VSC came on. That will neutralise the race. If the pit entry and exit is shorter or longer than the track, have a VSC speed that you must maintain on pit entry and exit so you dont get a shortcut advantage or a longer distance disadvantge  

smcc:

 

Great race with an interesting twist. Pity the vision mixers at Sky NZ are so useless, played ads in the middle of skyf1 segments, then played repeats of other programs over 2 sections of the post-race programme. Aggggh! Missed some of the great analysis by the UK skyf1 team. I can't believe I pay for this appalling service.

 

Are you sure they cut of the SkyF1 feed or were those gaps in there that had to be filled

tdgeek:

Was a great race. Clearly Seb gained through the VSC, the VSC is a very very dumb idea. Markelov won in Monaco like this, he was well out of play, VSC came out and he was in front and won

Again Mercedes is the fastest car in clear air, and when they get pole they should win, unless luck comes into play. Again, when not leading they are just another top car, nothing special. Given the grid at the pointy end has closed up, they now HAVE to get pole and HAVE to lead all the way.

Ferrari look great. Kimi liked his car, Seb isnt that happy, but they can still hang with Mercs if Mercs are in front. And they can hold Mercs behind

RBR look really good. Max would have been in the mix but for his mistake.

McLaren are back. While Danny Ricc was close behind he never looked like making a banzai pass. Vandorne was only 7 or so seconds behind Alonso as I counted a few laps from the finish 

Haas look ominous in the race behind the top three teams.

VSC needs to be looked at. You get the VSC flag, you slow down so the race is neutralised, but its not. You are on a slow bend at 80k, you slow down, I am at 325k, I slow down, but I wont be slowing down too quickly..... I gain a lot of distance. When the push the VSC button, they need to lock in the time difference a car is behind the one in front, that driver needs to maintain that then run a VSC speed. If the car in front pits, you stay at the time difference that you were behind what is now the car in front when VSC came on. That will neutralise the race. If the pit entry and exit is shorter or longer than the track, have a VSC speed that you must maintain on pit entry and exit so you dont get a shortcut advantage or a longer distance disadvantge  

Wow that was intriguing. Id like to know about those ads to, either way it was freakn annoying.

Anyone else been to the Aus F1? I really love that section from Apex 3 to 10.

Vettel er mannen, supermannen f1 :-).

I do miss the indycars at Surfers, not polished like f1 but something fun and raw about that street circuit.

tdgeek:

 

Are you sure they cut of the SkyF1 feed or were those gaps in there that had to be filled

 

Yes absolutely, the segments the played over, were promoted in the coverage e.g. Ted's notebook was cut to play a sky speed repeat, and before that, a random league highlights segment played for 10 mins before resuming the f1 programming. The structure of the UK Sky coverage follows a standard format every race, so it is obvious when they crap all over it.

TeaLeaf:

 

Wow that was intriguing. Id like to know about those ads to, either way it was freakn annoying.

 

Anyone else been to the Aus F1? I really love that section from Apex 3 to 10.

 

Vettel er mannen, supermannen f1 :-).

 

I do miss the indycars at Surfers, not polished like f1 but something fun and raw about that street circuit.

 

Not been to Aus but sat in the stand at Stowe corner at Silverstone when I lived in the UK a number of years ago. At the risk of dating myself, it was at the end of the V10 era and you could feel the noise, absolutely amazing! Also saw the Indy cars at Rockingham, not as amazing, but still exiting. Australia is on my list though. Might have to visit a friend in Melbourne this time next year.

Batman:

tdgeek:

 

Was a great race. Clearly Seb gained through the VSC, the VSC is a very very dumb idea. Markelov won in Monaco like this, he was well out of play, VSC came out and he was in front and won

 

 

 

Again Mercedes is the fastest car in clear air, and when they get pole they should win, unless luck comes into play. Again, when not leading they are just another top car, nothing special. Given the grid at the pointy end has closed up, they now HAVE to get pole and HAVE to lead all the way.

 

 

 

Ferrari look great. Kimi liked his car, Seb isnt that happy, but they can still hang with Mercs if Mercs are in front. And they can hold Mercs behind

 

 

 

RBR look really good. Max would have been in the mix but for his mistake.

 

 

 

McLaren are back. While Danny Ricc was close behind he never looked like making a banzai pass. Vandorne was only 7 or so seconds behind Alonso as I counted a few laps from the finish 

 

 

 

Haas look ominous in the race behind the top three teams.

 

 

 

VSC needs to be looked at. You get the VSC flag, you slow down so the race is neutralised, but its not. You are on a slow bend at 80k, you slow down, I am at 325k, I slow down, but I wont be slowing down too quickly..... I gain a lot of distance. When the push the VSC button, they need to lock in the time difference a car is behind the one in front, that driver needs to maintain that then run a VSC speed. If the car in front pits, you stay at the time difference that you were behind what is now the car in front when VSC came on. That will neutralise the race. If the pit entry and exit is shorter or longer than the track, have a VSC speed that you must maintain on pit entry and exit so you dont get a shortcut advantage or a longer distance disadvantge  

 

Would there have been a different result (Seb putting and coming out ahead of LH who has already pitted and doesn't need to pit again) were there a full safety car? LH would be going much slower under full SC who will be instructed to pick out SV as race leader.

SV was about 10 seconds behind from memory, so LH had track position for standard pitstops. Say that SV did come out ahead, then you are correct, no difference, be keen to see a data comparison. But with a SC isnt the car order defined at that point? I recall one race where the driver was in the pits and was deemed ahead on track as the pitstop was ahead

But VSC is totally unfair. If every car was travelling at 154k at the time of the VSC, then its fair, but that's not possible. The Markelov example was astounding and stupid. He was at high speed when many cars were on slow bends, so he was making up metres hand over fist while he was slowing down.