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#3378257 30-May-2025 11:29

Asteros:

I have the Black Sky Satellite Box. It's a good service for watching live and replays in full. There's only the Sky Uk commentary. Oh there's the preview and after race analysis and Ted's notebook.

I usually watch a race live or catch highlights on Youtube, seems like F1's own Youtube channel puts them up first.

Agree. I rarely watch anything live, perfect for my use case. Also has F3 and F2 FP sessions, quali and the races if they are running

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#3378261 30-May-2025 12:14

Jaxson:

Those on Sky TV, what's the F1 coverage been like this year?

My use is:

Replays:
10 min summary - youtube
Race in 30 min F1 TV - solid feel, just skips the boring laps.

Full race if viewing live.

Does Sky cater for the above etc? Quality/reliability been ok?
And do you get options for the international audio feed too?

Ive had both Sky and F1TV over the last 3 years. I prefer Sky just because of ease of use. The new UHD is very tempting on F1TV though.

My usual weekend depends on the FP/Qually and Race times. If its early morning (particularly mondays) I'll record it on mysky and watch it before work on Monday morning. If its better timings I'll watch it live. I actually prefer the Sky UK commentary.

For instance this weekend (Spain GP).

FP1 = Tonight 11:30pm - I'll watch live or record

FP2 = Saturday 3am - Record and watch tomorrow

FP3 = Saturday 10:30pm - Record and watch Sunday (Most likely NRL will be on)

Qually - Sunday 2am - Record and watch Sunday

Race = Monday 1am - I'll watch live just due to Kings Birthday monday holiday.

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#3378270 30-May-2025 13:25

Which commentary is the Sky commentary? Brundle or Coulthard?

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#3378271 30-May-2025 13:27

Brundle.

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#3378277 30-May-2025 14:56

Croft is absolutely dire, worse than Scotty Stevenson and that is saying something. I've gone back to Alex Jacques on F1TV, though he's not ideal either. Brundle as the side-man on Sky is top drawer, deserved that recent medal he got for having to put up with Murray Walker then Croft.

Harry Benjamin was a huge improvement at Imola, and also think Ben Edwards at F1TV is pretty decent when he gets a go.

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#3379279 30-May-2025 16:26

thermonuclear:

Croft is absolutely dire, worse than Scotty Stevenson and that is saying something. I've gone back to Alex Jacques on F1TV, though he's not ideal either. Brundle as the side-man on Sky is top drawer, deserved that recent medal he got for having to put up with Murray Walker then Croft.

Harry Benjamin was a huge improvement at Imola, and also think Ben Edwards at F1TV is pretty decent when he gets a go.

Harry is good, he is normal, not the sporttainment of Crofty. If I wanted tainment I'd watch a comedy

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#3379334 31-May-2025 06:26

Its Coulthard and Palmer that make F1TV commentary work.

Palmer is really good IMO, knowledgeable and understandable. His camaraderie with Coulthard on air is brilliant.

With regards to F1TV service, I wish I had purchased it in previous seasons. Truely on demand when I want to watch the weekend sessions, or live for that matter. UHD looks tops via Apple TV 4K.

The little things make the biggest difference.

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#3379405 31-May-2025 12:40

Decent Friday for Lawson, still behind Hadjar by a tenth in P10 after FP2 but that's probably down to when they both set their quick times, the track conditions and relative fuel loads. Nothing in it. Lawson ran the aero rakes in FP1 for a few laps, guess they were checking out what the modified front wing is doing now.

Anyway, hope he can push on when things get serious tonight, great to see him in the top half of the grid again.

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#3379651 1-Jun-2025 12:55

thermonuclear:

Decent Friday for Lawson, still behind Hadjar by a tenth in P10 after FP2 but that's probably down to when they both set their quick times, the track conditions and relative fuel loads. Nothing in it. Lawson ran the aero rakes in FP1 for a few laps, guess they were checking out what the modified front wing is doing now.

Anyway, hope he can push on when things get serious tonight, great to see him in the top half of the grid again.

It was. Im hoping that he feels settled with that car, and he realises that going through the motions needs to be turned into pushing the lap times. he did that yesterday and today in FP3, quick out of the blocks. Q2 was disappointing, but if you are top 10 in all three practice sessions, he appears to have turned a corner. Time to push. Possibly he was more circumspect with not binning it every now and then, given the pressure that is on.

Yuki is getting used to two Racing Bulls between him and Max. Red Bull could try an out there strategy. Pop Hadjar in for 3 races, pop Liam (if he continues this weekends improvement) for 3 races. Then make a call.

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#3379684 1-Jun-2025 16:36

Piastri for the win tonight, and to reassert some dominance over Norris. Think the Aussie is odds-on for the title this year, as much as I like Lando he's too fragile at this level.

Lawson failed to deliver when needed again unfortunately. I watched his on-boards right through Qualification, his final Q2 lap was much cleaner than the one which preceded it and looked good enough without the benefit of the timing screens to see that it actually wasn't. Disappointing.

Meanwhile, has Hadjar become the new Mr Saturday? The kid is mixing it with the big guns for fun now, always able to pull out a huge lap on demand. I believe he's only on a single year contract currently but expect there to be an announcement in short order that Red Bull have locked him up on a multi-year deal. He's a real talent and arguably better than Antonelli.

Turned on early last night and watched the final six laps of the F2 Sprint Race. Without the context of what had occurred before Lindblad looked well out of it in 17th place. However, over the following four laps he was able to carve his way through the field and was up to P10 and eventually P9 in the final lap. Out of the points but still mighty impressive. He starts off pole in the Feature Race tonight and you wouldn't bet against him taking the win.

If he continues on this trajectory, it's hard to see how he doesn't come into F1 sooner than later. Perhaps the only saving grace for Lawson might be that Lindblad might get close enough to challenge for the F2 title, and Red Bull may leave him in place to see if he can put that on his CV. I still believe Lawson will get another season because Tsunoda is little more than a pay driver now and was always out the door at the end of this year regardless. Hadjar will get his seat alongside Verstappen in 2026.

Stroll out tonight with a hand injury. Interesting condition in the regs that a driver can't be subbed in after Qualification. He really does need to go from the grid though, his attitude and lack of engagement everytime I hear him speak to the media is just abysmal, adds nothing to the sport whatsoever.

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#3379693 1-Jun-2025 18:03

thermonuclear:

Piastri for the win tonight, and to reassert some dominance over Norris. Think the Aussie is odds-on for the title this year, as much as I like Lando he's too fragile at this level.

Lawson failed to deliver when needed again unfortunately. I watched his on-boards right through Qualification, his final Q2 lap was much cleaner than the one which preceded it and looked good enough without the benefit of the timing screens to see that it actually wasn't. Disappointing.

Meanwhile, has Hadjar become the new Mr Saturday? The kid is mixing it with the big guns for fun now, always able to pull out a huge lap on demand. I believe he's only on a single year contract currently but expect there to be an announcement in short order that Red Bull have locked him up on a multi-year deal. He's a real talent and arguably better than Antonelli.

Turned on early last night and watched the final six laps of the F2 Sprint Race. Without the context of what had occurred before Lindblad looked well out of it in 17th place. However, over the following four laps he was able to carve his way through the field and was up to P10 and eventually P9 in the final lap. Out of the points but still mighty impressive. He starts off pole in the Feature Race tonight and you wouldn't bet against him taking the win.

If he continues on this trajectory, it's hard to see how he doesn't come into F1 sooner than later. Perhaps the only saving grace for Lawson might be that Lindblad might get close enough to challenge for the F2 title, and Red Bull may leave him in place to see if he can put that on his CV. I still believe Lawson will get another season because Tsunoda is little more than a pay driver now and was always out the door at the end of this year regardless. Hadjar will get his seat alongside Verstappen in 2026.

Stroll out tonight with a hand injury. Interesting condition in the regs that a driver can't be subbed in after Qualification. He really does need to go from the grid though, his attitude and lack of engagement everytime I hear him speak to the media is just abysmal, adds nothing to the sport whatsoever.

Hmmmm :-)

Yes Oscar is the real deal. Kimi 2.0. Lando, we all love him but he is his own worst enemy. I watch a LOT of golf, its the same deal, if you can manage between the ears, you can let you talent do the talking. If Lando had a decent lead in the DWC, he would go very well. If he was a tad behind as he is, he will falter under pressure

Liam, I disagree. Q2 yes disappointing but he was top 10 in FP1,2 and 3. Thats s huge gain.

Hadjar is very very good, he has nailed Liam. This race weekend e hasn't but he did in quali. If Liam can better him and be equal or a tickle behind in Q2, that either means Hadjar is not a huge amount better than Liam. If Liam is seen as just ok, that means Hadjar is bettering a "just ok" driver. More to see here I think. My personal opinion is that Hadjar drives Liam forward, and that may mean Yuki is left behind. He is worse by a margin than Perez (who is no slouch)

Yuki wont last there season. I saw your post re the F2 sprint race so I didnt read it apart from seeing Lindblad did ok. Will watch tonight.

Turn 1 in the race. Long straight, Max behind Oscar, Lando on the dirty side. Thats a race in itself.

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#3379754 2-Jun-2025 10:39

A bit to unpack here!

Before I pass my comments on the news of the day:

Liam was super stiff, he was the lead lapped car and everyone behind him pitted. Sitting duck

i felt when Antonelli's car failed, they should have left Max out. His softs were used but so were Oscar's and Lando's pitted softs, so he would have track position. Safety car could leave 6 or less laps, so worst case was third. Pitting meant he stayed third on hards, that guarantees third, possibly worse.

Max, Max, Max. While he didnt steer the car into George it was intentional, as Max stated in his own Max way. He lost 10 seconds, a LOT of points and is one point away from a race ban. While there is no excuse, and Ive seen other drivers do a lot worse, there are some mitigating circumstances that pushed him over the edge. I feel he realises that the possibility of the WDC was over before the race started. He also stated that in his interview. Charles hit him, which was admitted, George was at fault when he hit Max and pushed him off track. But the kicker was as Max stayed in front GP incorrectly told him to give the place back, that was wrong. That pushed him over the edge. George met the rules to be alongside on the inside, George stayed in track limits, but he didnt have control of the car, so his fault. Some commentator said George deserved a 10 second penalty, I dont agree, racing incident, he didnt gain an advantage, so let it be. GP caused that, but again, no excuses for Max.

Oscar, too fast, too cool, and too unflappable. Lando just as fast but not so cool

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#3379778 2-Jun-2025 11:21

tdgeek:

A bit to unpack here!

Before I pass my comments on the news of the day:

Liam was super stiff, he was the lead lapped car and everyone behind him pitted. Sitting duck

i felt when Antonelli's car failed, they should have left Max out. His softs were used but so were Oscar's and Lando's pitted softs, so he would have track position. Safety car could leave 6 or less laps, so worst case was third. Pitting meant he stayed third on hards, that guarantees third, possibly worse.

Max, Max, Max. While he didnt steer the car into George it was intentional, as Max stated in his own Max way. He lost 10 seconds, a LOT of points and is one point away from a race ban. While there is no excuse, and Ive seen other drivers do a lot worse, there are some mitigating circumstances that pushed him over the edge. I feel he realises that the possibility of the WDC was over before the race started. He also stated that in his interview. Charles hit him, which was admitted, George was at fault when he hit Max and pushed him off track. But the kicker was as Max stayed in front GP incorrectly told him to give the place back, that was wrong. That pushed him over the edge. George met the rules to be alongside on the inside, George stayed in track limits, but he didnt have control of the car, so his fault. Some commentator said George deserved a 10 second penalty, I dont agree, racing incident, he didnt gain an advantage, so let it be. GP caused that, but again, no excuses for Max.

Oscar, too fast, too cool, and too unflappable. Lando just as fast but not so cool

There are no mitigating circumstances that can push someone to intentionally crashing in to another competitor, absolutely none. It wasn't dangerous in my opinion but it was beyond stupid, doesn't matter how agreived a driver may be for a previous issue these are some, if not, the best open seat drivers in the world and that petulence Max showed has no place in modern motor racing.

Apart from that, I enjoyed the race and the Mclaren looks good and Oscar looks imperious. Leclerk is dragging that Ferarri to places it shouldn't. Was disappointed in Williams both as Albon had a mare and they where just no where.

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#3379783 2-Jun-2025 11:57

Benoire:

There are no mitigating circumstances that can push someone to intentionally crashing in to another competitor, absolutely none.

Nico Rosberg, commentating for Sky UK, said it was intentional, and hence warrants a disqualification (which would have given Liam a point - his engineer was too slow and missed pitting him making him a sitting duck at the restart).

I think the Stewards are scared of Jos blowing it up into the stratosphere lol. He's 1 point from a 1 race ban so I guess in the grand scheme of things it's a suspended disqualification.

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#3379789 2-Jun-2025 12:15

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Benoire:

There are no mitigating circumstances that can push someone to intentionally crashing in to another competitor, absolutely none.

Nico Rosberg, commentating for Sky UK, said it was intentional, and hence warrants a disqualification (which would have given Liam a point - his engineer was too slow and missed pitting him making him a sitting duck at the restart).

I think the Stewards are scared of Jos blowing it up into the stratosphere lol. He's 1 point from a 1 race ban so I guess in the grand scheme of things it's a suspended disqualification.

Is that the same Rosberg that pretended to understeer at top of the slow corners in Monaco so Lewis could not beat him to pole? Bit like Schummy who did the same also at Monaco. Professional Foul in any other sport

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