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#90140 8-Oct-2007 17:38

Come on ENGLAND!

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#90142 8-Oct-2007 17:58

DS9: Come on ENGLAND!

England will not retain the RWC, $20 says they won't.

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#90144 8-Oct-2007 18:11

ZIMsar10:
DS9: Come on ENGLAND!

England will not retain the RWC, $20 says they won't.

Are you paying this to the ref?

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#90147 8-Oct-2007 18:30

im still depressed i cant believe its over

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#90150 8-Oct-2007 18:51

We'll be at the airport to welcome the All Blacks home. And will continue to support them no matter what.

Allez les Tous-Noirs!

Allez les France!

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#90221 9-Oct-2007 09:30

The "supreme sacrifice"... No, not this. The other one: a tattoo "All Blacks Winner WRC 2007 - 2011".

And not only that, but there's a uneeded apostrophe in "AB's"...

Oh well...

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#90225 9-Oct-2007 09:38

And these are the men who shouldn't be called men: Women suffer rugby backlash.

Disgusting:

Many women became targets of violence as their partners took out their frustrations following the All Blacks' rugby World Cup loss.

Women's refuges say the demand (sic) for their services has been since Sunday's defeat.

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#90244 9-Oct-2007 12:43

At the end of the day...
- Winners win in spite of poor refereeing, losers whine about it (which no-one in the AB camp is doing).
- The French went in with nothing to lose and they played like it... great defence and never giving in (good on them I say!).
- The ABs had some shocking handling errors (e.g. who was Evans trying to pass to?), although they played well overall.
- The ABs are professional rugby players i.e. they play rugby for a living... surely, this means they know how to play the game at a representative level?
- What's with the culture of putting full blame on the coach (see previous comment)? 42 wins out of 48 test matches (plus winning every other cup/trophy) is a pretty good record so something must have been working.
- Life as we know it hasn't ended!

In short: get over it, it's just a game, anything can happen in 80 minutes (and obviously did), the French played better.

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#90266 9-Oct-2007 15:02

Ritchie McCaw was walking dejectedly past the changing room doors after the game when he came across a cellphone. After picking it up and taking a brief look at it he knocked on Wayne Barnes' door.
"here you go mate I found your cellphone"
"cheers" says the Barnes. "But how did you know it was mine?"
"look for yourself - 15 missed calls"

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#90284 9-Oct-2007 17:05

Lol.. the All Blacks played a fantastic game and gave it their best, I cannot believe it's still going on like it's the only news that matters!

Now you know why League has Video Referee!

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#90381 10-Oct-2007 01:22

i am am irish guy and joined the forum to see what the feelings in NZ would be like following the defeat. i too am bitterly disappointed by our own performance in the cup but i find some of the rants about the referee completely off the wall. how can it be that he deliberately cheated?? how can it be that he was paid money to ensure an AB loss?? how can it be that civilised people believe this and also can condone the wikipedia entries?? this is utter drival. the match was there only to be lost by the ABs. never has a team performed so well over the last number of years and come into a tournament as such raging hot favourites. by the standards set in previous games the ABs underperformed and lacked shape, confidence and abandoned their successful game plan in the last 15 mins in favour of a pick and go strategy. actually to a neutral the lack of performance could have been forecast (and was among my company watching the match) during the haka. when the french put it up to them it was obvious that some of the players were less than comfortable and looked away from the the french. check it out on youtube. i appreciate that feelings are running high but it is important to be dignified in defeat.

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#90383 10-Oct-2007 02:50

paddyJoeOB: i am am irish guy and joined the forum to see what the feelings in NZ would be like following the defeat. i too am bitterly disappointed by our own performance in the cup but i find some of the rants about the referee completely off the wall. how can it be that he deliberately cheated?? how can it be that he was paid money to ensure an AB loss?? how can it be that civilised people believe this and also can condone the wikipedia entries?? this is utter drival. the match was there only to be lost by the ABs. never has a team performed so well over the last number of years and come into a tournament as such raging hot favourites. by the standards set in previous games the ABs underperformed and lacked shape, confidence and abandoned their successful game plan in the last 15 mins in favour of a pick and go strategy. actually to a neutral the lack of performance could have been forecast (and was among my company watching the match) during the haka. when the french put it up to them it was obvious that some of the players were less than comfortable and looked away from the the french. check it out on youtube. i appreciate that feelings are running high but it is important to be dignified in defeat.

of course you're absolutely right. Some of the reactions have been way over the top - but that's the fans for you. The ABs themselves have had nothing but praise for the french and not a single critical word about the ref - so I think that fits the bill when it comes to dignity. Which is more than I can say for this article - http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby/2007/10/new-zealand-exi.html . Ouch - did someone in black run over this guys dog or something? Seems that some northern commentators, after spending most of the tournament putting the boot into the English team, are suddernly their new best friend - and have started putting the boot in the kiwis and Aussies. With friends like these..... This guy needs a pulpit, not a blog.

I actually really enjoyed the game. Disappointed that NZ lost, but I thought the ABs played well (can anyone beat a rampaging France on their day)? I also wonder - what would the reaction have been if it was an NZ - England quarter final with England leading into the last five minutes and then NZ scores a late try on a flat pass (let alone a forward pass). I think the reaction would be the same.

By the way - what happend to the Irish team? No shortage of talent there - but they got comprehensively pushed around by the Argentinians?

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#90714 11-Oct-2007 19:59

freitasm:
ZIMsar10:
DS9: Come on ENGLAND!

England will not retain the RWC, $20 says they won't.

Are you paying this to the ref?

Yes, of course I am, they like to take bribes, although $20 isn't usually enough these days........

Back on topic, I believe England don't have what it takes to beat France, hence $20 they won't. England are incapable of scoring tries, they rely solely on Johnny Wilkinson, which is a very bad move. Go France!

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#90717 11-Oct-2007 20:07

paradoxsm: Lol.. the All Blacks played a fantastic game and gave it their best, I cannot believe it's still going on like it's the only news that matters!

Now you know why League has Video Referee!

Rugby Union also use Video Referee's & unfortunately the only time one was used was when Rodney got his try.

The IRB admitted that their instruction to the Linesmen (who are also referee's) not to make decisions about off side play & other important calls was indeed a mistake on their behalf.

Also, the IRB said Wayne Barnes would not be used in any more of the games, which casts doubt over his ability & begs the question why was he used in the first place, with such a vitally important match & his severe lack of experience at International level??

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#90719 11-Oct-2007 20:15

ZIMsar10:Also, the IRB said Wayne Barnes would not be used in any more of the games, which casts doubt over his ability & begs the question why was he used in the first place, with such a vitally important match & his severe lack of experience at International level??

I don't question his inexperience, but there are only three more games, and at least one has England in it, so that doesn't leave much need for him.

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