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Topic # 148870 3-Jul-2014 13:43
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Surely it could be a lot easier to fix than a cricket match or a rugby match, as points are so few and thus the referee could hold much power in assisting teams to get one or two points (or preventing them) ...

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/marcotti-musings/62/post/1929386/match-fixing-more-regulation-needed

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/28/honduras-nigeria-world-cup-match-fixing

makes me wonder a little ... hmm ...

(sorry been watching a lot of news around mr vincent and mr cairns)

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  Reply # 1079376 3-Jul-2014 14:01
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  Reply # 1079379 3-Jul-2014 14:03
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of course :D thanks for the correction!

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  Reply # 1079463 3-Jul-2014 16:18
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sidefx: * football

 

Nah soccer.  Fooballs played  with an eliptical ball.




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  Reply # 1079469 3-Jul-2014 16:26
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not up with the times or just wanting to be rooted? ;p

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  Reply # 1079588 3-Jul-2014 19:15
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I'd say it's harder to fix with football because single event can change result unlike cricket where one player can easily get out for a duck or bowl a no ball in a set over.

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  Reply # 1079592 3-Jul-2014 19:23
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It'd be interseting to be able to have an 'all knowing' honest view of a lot of these sports where allegations of match fixing a prominent to really see what's going on. I suspect it's the sort of thing that's very hard to know for sure exactly what effect was had.

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sidefx: * football

Nah soccer.  Fooballs played  with an eliptical ball.


You mean the sport that barely involves using your feet on the ball? I don't see why people feel the need to try and pick such pointless fights in these sorts of threads. 




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  Reply # 1080945 4-Jul-2014 13:16
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Inphinity: 
old3eyes:
sidefx: * football

Nah soccer.  Fooballs played  with an eliptical ball.


You mean the sport that barely involves using your feet on the ball? I don't see why people feel the need to try and pick such pointless fights in these sorts of threads. 


Apologies but I guess I'd disagree with that given the last few ABs games I've been to or watched on TV.  The general tactic appears to be to kick the ball as high as possible to generate a less than 50% chance to get it back and gain only 10 metres if that!

Looking at the name logically, we here in NZ call the game of Rugby Union, football.  That's why we call the game with the round ball, soccer.  Australia call Aussie Rules (I think, unless it it league) football, and therefore use soccer too.  USA football = American football, so they use soccer.  Ireland football = Gaelic football, so the use soccer.

We live in NZ so we call it soccer.  There is little justification for correcting someone who calls it soccer.  Likewise I would not go to the UK for example and try to change any of their localised language just because I use something different in another country.

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  Reply # 1080979 4-Jul-2014 14:13
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In some ways it seems easier in rugby where the set piece is important in asserting dominance. Even one under-performing forward could significantly reduce a team's effectiveness.

Also agree with Satch. If "Fédération Internationale de Football Association" (FIFA) is translated into English it is the "International Federation of Association Football". I find it easier to say "soccer" than "association football". I've appreciated that the TV show "The Crowd Goes Wild" has been consistently using the term "soccer football" during the FIFA World Cup.

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Football = Rugby

Soccer = Acting

Of course soccer is fixed, no video referees, all professionals take acting lessons. Its a sport 20 years behind modern times

My 2 cents anyway




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  Reply # 1081041 4-Jul-2014 15:40
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Apologies but I guess I'd disagree with that given the last few ABs games I've been to or watched on TV.  The general tactic appears to be to kick the ball as high as possible to generate a less than 50% chance to get it back and gain only 10 metres if that!

Looking at the name logically, we here in NZ call the game of Rugby Union, football.  That's why we call the game with the round ball, soccer.  Australia call Aussie Rules (I think, unless it it league) football, and therefore use soccer too.  USA football = American football, so they use soccer.  Ireland football = Gaelic football, so the use soccer.

We live in NZ so we call it soccer.  There is little justification for correcting someone who calls it soccer.  Likewise I would not go to the UK for example and try to change any of their localised language just because I use something different in another country.


Football can mean plenty of sports, and if it were a thread about rugby in which rugby was referred to as football, I would equally object to someone going "That's rugby, not football!" I just feel in a thread that's clearly about the Soccer variety of football, it's a bit small to start arguing over whether it is 'football' or not, when it clearly is. It just turns into a complete derail of the actual point of the thread - to discuss the match fixing claims that have recently arisen.




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  Reply # 1081076 4-Jul-2014 16:38
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football = football
Rugby = rugby Union
League = Rugby League...

Then there are Aussie Variants and US variants that all make no sense at all...

soccer is another term invented by Americans...

But to get back on topic, I do think match fixing in Soccer should be very easy -
Just kick the ball around randomly or kick it high above or wide of the goal purposely...
Score an own goal
or Bite someone??? ...
= your team loses and you get paid for fixing the game!

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  Reply # 1081080 4-Jul-2014 16:54
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Inphinity: ...  I don't see why people feel the need to try and pick such pointless fights in these sorts of threads. 


Inphinity: ... It just turns into a complete derail of the actual point of the thread - to discuss the match fixing claims that have recently arisen.


Inphinity, why have another go when you'd already pointed out it was "pointless"?

Peter Reader should have said "Here we go again" laughing

Anyway, back to the topic which hasn't generated much interest. I just remembered that I was upset enough to leap off the sofa at a couple of the referee's blunders when Brazil beat Croatia in the first game of the FIFA World Cup. Croatia got the worst of those decisions. For a 'showcase' game it was a major letdown so I didn't watch any of the second day games and have only watched some highlights since.

(That reminded me that as a kid in the 1970s I played in the Hutt Valley competition for the Adriatic club from Wellington. Our coaches were enthusiastic and great guys and I've never enjoyed soccer more. Apparently, the Adriatic club came out of the Yugoslav Club and is now called the Croatian Culture Society and it looks like they're still in the same building by the Basin Reserve.)

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Bee: football = football
Rugby = rugby Union
League = Rugby League...

Then there are Aussie Variants and US variants that all make no sense at all...

soccer is another term invented by Americans...



I suggest you read this then



"The Origin of the Word “Soccer”"




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:
Bee: football = football
Rugby = rugby Union
League = Rugby League...

Then there are Aussie Variants and US variants that all make no sense at all...

soccer is another term invented by Americans...



I suggest you read this then



"The Origin of the Word “Soccer”"


Did not know that, I thought it originated in either US or Australia so thanks for that.




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  Reply # 1081168 4-Jul-2014 19:49
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Yes soccer is short for association football in Britain, everybody knows that.

U might not know that the nzf abolished the word soccer from their society and changed their name to nzf a few years ago now. Hence they want to be associated with the word football and not soccer any longer

www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=38

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