What happened to our Rio Sevens Rugby Team ..was it the ref's fault?

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#201269 11-Aug-2016 09:18

There is apparently some anger about the ref's calls in NZ's loss in the quarter finals of the rugby sevens to Fiji by 12-7.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83049145/rio-olympics-2016-new-zealand-sevens-medal-hopes-hanging-by-a-thread

So why have we lost 3 of our 4 games in Rio, surely not all the refs are to blame? Is it that the teams that beat us really are better than us?!!

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#1609925 11-Aug-2016 09:21

The refs are not to blame, we simply weren't good enough

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#1609935 11-Aug-2016 09:33

Moved to correct sub-forum.

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#1609947 11-Aug-2016 09:52

Totally agree - we got our fair share of rubbish refereeing decisions go our way against Kenya - which is the only game we won! We just weren't good enough. Injuries certainly didn't help - we only had 10 fit players to pick from in the QF. The refereeing was pretty average across the board however - something that probably needs to be addressed for the next Olympics.

Good luck to Fiji - will be backing them 100% now!

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#1609964 11-Aug-2016 10:03

ludez: The refs are not to blame, we simply weren't good enough

Actually, here I disagree.

Refs can be to blame.

In close games, the ref can make the difference or change the momentum of the match.

However, people make errors - So, don't blame them as individuals but you can criticise the 'system' for not having extra checks. eg, that womens 7's match, the aussie try was clearly not a try and everyone knew it except the ref.

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#1609965 11-Aug-2016 10:08

How many rounds of the HSBC series did we win this year? We haven't exactly dominated this year.

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#1609976 11-Aug-2016 10:29

frednz:

There is apparently some anger about the ref's calls in NZ's loss in the quarter finals of the rugby sevens to Fiji by 12-7.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/83049145/rio-olympics-2016-new-zealand-sevens-medal-hopes-hanging-by-a-thread

So why have we lost 3 of our 4 games in Rio, surely not all the refs are to blame? Is it that the teams that beat us really are better than us?!!

We were not good enough, we looked lethargic and listless (We had 1 attack in 1 and a half halves), but some of those calls were AWFUL.

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#1609977 11-Aug-2016 10:30

SumnerBoy:

Totally agree - we got our fair share of rubbish refereeing decisions go our way against Kenya - which is the only game we won! We just weren't good enough. Injuries certainly didn't help - we only had 10 fit players to pick from in the QF. The refereeing was pretty average across the board however - something that probably needs to be addressed for the next Olympics.

Good luck to Fiji - will be backing them 100% now!

Backing Fiji now as well!

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#1609986 11-Aug-2016 10:44

surfisup1000:

Actually, here I disagree.

Refs can be to blame.

In close games, the ref can make the difference or change the momentum of the match.

Yep I know what you are saying but it smacks of sour grapes if we complain about the refereeing, and shows a lack of sportsmanship. Anyone who has played sport at any level knows you get the rub of the green some days, and some days you don't. If you are good enough you can take the ref out of the equation in most cases. We were simply not good enough to do that in the face of some poor decisions.

One of the things about 7s is the pace of the game, both in how it is played and how it is officiated. They won't/shouldn't introduce TMOs as it will just slow things down too much.

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#1609988 11-Aug-2016 10:48

SumnerBoy:

surfisup1000:

Actually, here I disagree.

Refs can be to blame.

In close games, the ref can make the difference or change the momentum of the match.

Yep I know what you are saying but it smacks of sour grapes if we complain about the refereeing, and shows a lack of sportsmanship. Anyone who has played sport at any level knows you get the rub of the green some days, and some days you don't. If you are good enough you can take the ref out of the equation in most cases. We were simply not good enough to do that in the face of some poor decisions.

One of the things about 7s is the pace of the game, both in how it is played and how it is officiated. They won't/shouldn't introduce TMOs as it will just slow things down too much.

I agree with no TMO's except at try time.

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#1609989 11-Aug-2016 10:50

Won't happen. That is how it started in rugby and now look at it - they can go back 2 phases - pretty soon it will be more. Once the technology is there it ends up getting used more and more. Why should the grounding have more importance than a blatant knock-on in the immediately preceeding ruck? You always end up with this sort of thing once you introduce TMOs.

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#1609992 11-Aug-2016 10:57

What happened? Injury and, in the game against Fiji, the ref.

Disclaimer. I didn't see the game, but saw Melody Robinson's summary of the game.

In the game against Fiji, we had a player sin binned for a dangerous tackle, but the ref didn't sin bin a Fijian player for a high tackle, so a bit of inconsistency there.

Add to that 3 players out with injury, and that's that.

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#1609994 11-Aug-2016 10:57

SumnerBoy:

Won't happen. That is how it started in rugby and now look at it - they can go back 2 phases - pretty soon it will be more. Once the technology is there it ends up getting used more and more. Why should the grounding have more importance than a blatant knock-on in the immediately preceeding ruck? You always end up with this sort of thing once you introduce TMOs.

Well at the very least the ability to replay the try on a big screen for the existing ref to review.

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#1610066 11-Aug-2016 12:20

I blame the NZ news media myself for hyping the whole Olympics saying it will be the best ever with about 8 or 9 gold medals.. Looks like Fiji could be ahead of us on the medal tables yet..

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