Track shoes (sneakers) Widely differing standards?

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#210228 18-Mar-2017 15:21

Been buying a few shoes on TradeMe lately (second-hand but virtually unused) and it seems to me that the sizes vary widely depending on the manufacturer.

Like, a size 10 Asics can be markedly different to a size 10 New Balance, or a Mizuno.

(My actual experience: The NB and Mizuno shoes were over one size bigger than the Asics)

Anyone else noticed or experienced this?

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#1743423 18-Mar-2017 16:42

size 10 adult, chiuld women UK US or Euro?

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#1743428 18-Mar-2017 16:52

Yes. Width of the shoes can also affect how large they feel. I find asics shoes even vary in siz depending on the model. For example I am size 11 for one type, but 11.5 in another.

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#1743431 18-Mar-2017 17:05

joker97, I was only using '10' as an example. The actual shoes are adult male and labeled:

Asics GT 1000 - Euro 44.5, US 10.5

Mizuno Waverider - Euro 44.5, US 10.5

New Balance 859 - Euro 44.5, US 10.5

But the New Balance and Mizuno are significantly bigger than the Asics. So much so that I'll have to resell them.

Whereas the Asics are a perfect fit.

However, my wife has noticed the same variation with women's shoes.

PS: Sorry, mattwnz, didn't see your post.

How about this for weird? I've just measured the shoes again. All are '2E' - wide fitting. But the Mizuno are over a centimeter wider than the Asics!

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#1743443 18-Mar-2017 17:20

I guess this is a benefit of buying shoes in store, to be sure they fit properly.

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#1743502 18-Mar-2017 18:54

I just buy the same brand, model each year. Just a diifferent version. Started with properly fitted. Now buy off us sites/U.K. Sites, just the next model each year.

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#1743664 19-Mar-2017 08:01

davidcole: I just buy the same brand, model each year. Just a diifferent version. Started with properly fitted. Now buy off us sites/U.K. Sites, just the next model each year.

Sounds like a good plan.

Actually, I'm starting to wonder if the disparity in size is a deliberate ploy by the manufacturers and retailers.

Like, if buyers find it difficult to buy shoes sight unseen - online - then they might be forced to visit stores and try the shoes on.

Anyone know the manufacturing costs of these things? Like, ex factory in Asian plants?

I'm betting it's not much more than $6 - $7 a pair.

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#1743668 19-Mar-2017 08:08

geekIT:

davidcole: I just buy the same brand, model each year. Just a diifferent version. Started with properly fitted. Now buy off us sites/U.K. Sites, just the next model each year.

Sounds like a good plan.

Actually, I'm starting to wonder if the disparity in size is a deliberate ploy by the manufacturers and retailers.

Like, if buyers find it difficult to buy shoes sight unseen - online - then they might be forced to visit stores and try the shoes on.

Anyone know the manufacturing costs of these things? Like, ex factory in Asian plants?

I'm betting it's not much more than $6 - $7 a pair.

Apparently the internet says $20-30 (?US). That sounds high ... maybe they've stopped using child slavery. USed to be wayyy lower when I was young - but they were using child labour.

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#1743679 19-Mar-2017 08:45

geekIT:
davidcole: I just buy the same brand, model each year. Just a diifferent version. Started with properly fitted. Now buy off us sites/U.K. Sites, just the next model each year.

Sounds like a good plan.

Actually, I'm starting to wonder if the disparity in size is a deliberate ploy by the manufacturers and retailers.

Like, if buyers find it difficult to buy shoes sight unseen - online - then they might be forced to visit stores and try the shoes on.

Anyone know the manufacturing costs of these things? Like, ex factory in Asian plants?

I'm betting it's not much more than $6 - $7 a pair.

Oh and just for my conscience, I was fitted at shoe clinic the first year, so I did buy from them that first year ($230). It subsewuent years I've bought from the state (normally $50usd + $50usd shippping) and lately from an oz place that charged $80aud including shipping.

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#1743680 19-Mar-2017 08:47

I'd say my last ~15 pairs of shoes have been a size US12 with the exception of one that was a 12.5 due to me wanting a looser fit. I actually think shoe sizing has become a lot better now, unlike clothing which is still all over the place.

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#1743684 19-Mar-2017 08:50

geekIT:

davidcole: I just buy the same brand, model each year. Just a diifferent version. Started with properly fitted. Now buy off us sites/U.K. Sites, just the next model each year.

Sounds like a good plan.

Actually, I'm starting to wonder if the disparity in size is a deliberate ploy by the manufacturers and retailers.

Like, if buyers find it difficult to buy shoes sight unseen - online - then they might be forced to visit stores and try the shoes on.

Anyone know the manufacturing costs of these things? Like, ex factory in Asian plants?

I'm betting it's not much more than $6 - $7 a pair.

Cost obviously depends on the manufacturer. Some such as New Balance manufacture and sell lots of shoes in the US and EU (last I saw around 30% of shoes in both markets) that are manufactured in the US and the UK. They are an exception rather than the norm, but can sustain the higher costs of doing so.

I too tend to buy the same shoes pretty often because once I find something that fits I just keep buying it. Running shoes in particular seem to have a lot shorter life these days due to the much softer compounds they're making them out of.

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#1749875 29-Mar-2017 07:56

In the past i found there was a bit of a difference in shoe sizes between brands. But more of an issue was how the soles wore and how the upper mesh adapted to your foot as it swells. I run about 70 km a week and have settled on a brand that suits and gives me 600kms a pair - the longest of any shoe. Unfortunatly brand not easily available in nz and if it is $280 a pair. Consequently i buy from the states for about $90 including postage.