Will overseas travel (to Europe as an example) be allowed by July 2022?

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#2769261 31-Aug-2021 11:08

I would suggest also checking with your employer what their policy is regarding getting stuck overseas or needing to isolate on return.

Last year my employer stated you need ceo sign off to travel overseas (essential worker) and i havent seen a work email suggesting something has changed even when we were no longer in any form of restriction.

Also consider what your work colleagues would think about covering you if you rolled the dice and got caught out and they have to cover your absence. Ie someone's nz holiday get cancelled because you went overseas.

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#2769334 31-Aug-2021 13:05

I know of a couple who have both lost their jobs as a result of taking a "weekend" trip to Aussie during the bubble, and are still stuck there...

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#2769336 31-Aug-2021 13:09

What they said ^^^

But, could you, if necessary, work remotely from Europe or MIQ?

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#2769339 31-Aug-2021 13:19

The post heading is misleading. There is nothing to stop you travelling. It is allowed.

However....

It is not advised (officially on the Govt website)
There are requirements on what you must do in order to travel dependant on where you are going
There are requirements on what you must do in order to get back - some of which are very hard to meet given the MIQ booking situation.

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#2770269 1-Sep-2021 22:34

I have a couple of friends in France who would love to come here and see Hobbiton, etc. They can travel all around Europe but can't come here (yet), as well as another friend in Brazil who would like to visit here too.

Hopefully they can come soon, although I think France would be easier to let into NZ (at the moment) as opposed to Brazil, which is being pretty ravaged by the Delta coronavirus variant, although having said this she is fully vaccinated...not sure how much of a difference this would make though.

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#2770271 1-Sep-2021 22:39

I'd guess (and hope) that there will be quarantine free travel for the vaccinated sometime in 2022. I wouldn't bet money on it.

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#2770335 2-Sep-2021 08:20

quickymart:

having said this she is fully vaccinated...not sure how much of a difference this would make though.

The thing is, even fully vaccinated people can still carry the virus and infect others.

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#2770337 2-Sep-2021 08:27

MurrayM:

The thing is, even fully vaccinated people can still carry the virus and infect others.

Lots of people forget this

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#2770344 2-Sep-2021 08:40

That's a good point. 14 days isolation is a pain, but I guess you only need to do it once.

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#2770451 2-Sep-2021 10:02

nztim:

MurrayM:

The thing is, even fully vaccinated people can still carry the virus and infect others.

Lots of people forget this

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/covid-19/450512/new-south-wales-covid-19-1116-new-cases-and-four-deaths

23 patients out of 150 in NSW ICU with Covid are vaccinated.

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#2770459 2-Sep-2021 10:13

I think there is a lot of uncertainty at the moment.

In one hand, you have people who are fully vaccinated getting the virus, on the other hand, you have nations depending on tourism to function, like New Zealand.

I think that the COVID vaccine will be a every year thing, just like the flu vaccine. We're going to have to take it at least once a year, for the rest of our lives. And mainly, because the virus is always mutating.

I think that by 2022 we'll be allowed to travel, but it won't be like we remember. There will be lots of restrictions, like the destination for example, and lots and lots of COVID tests. I hope I'm wrong, though.

I've lost my mom due to COVID almost 3 months ago, and haven't been able to go back to my home country to see my family since. The last time I saw her, was in January 2020 when she came to NZ to visit me. It sucks. I wish I could leave and come back at any time, so that I could visit my family, and I'm counting on that for 2022. I'm going, no matter what.

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#2770487 2-Sep-2021 11:05

sud0:
I think there is a lot of uncertainty at the moment.

In one hand, you have people who are fully vaccinated getting the virus, on the other hand, you have nations depending on tourism to function, like New Zealand.

I think that the COVID vaccine will be a every year thing, just like the flu vaccine. We're going to have to take it at least once a year, for the rest of our lives. And mainly, because the virus is always mutating.

I think that by 2022 we'll be allowed to travel, but it won't be like we remember. There will be lots of restrictions, like the destination for example, and lots and lots of COVID tests. I hope I'm wrong, though.

I've lost my mom due to COVID almost 3 months ago, and haven't been able to go back to my home country to see my family since. The last time I saw her, was in January 2020 when she came to NZ to visit me. It sucks. I wish I could leave and come back at any time, so that I could visit my family, and I'm counting on that for 2022. I'm going, no matter what.

I’m sorry to hear that you lost your mother.

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#2777725 13-Sep-2021 17:17

I intend to go next year - regardless of what happens with the border here. Life is too bloody short and we've had to delay bit travel plans since 2017 for reasons other than covid. My poartner will be 70 next year - time is running out.

The plan is to have backup options and to not lock into anything too restrictive. I'm bascially sticking with Qantas and AirNZ because I can use those credits easily. Not booking non-refundable stuff until just before I need it.

I think what is happening next year will be much clearer by Xmas.

The big unknows are vaccination take up rates here (looking good so far) and if a new variant springs up which vaccines don't use against. The UK and US have proven that infections amongst fully vaccinated people are not a big issue - they don't end up in hospital and die.

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#2777839 13-Sep-2021 20:44

I can't see international travel going back to how it was pre pandemic for a very very long, if ever. We've already seen how different Delta is with it's increased transmissibility and mortality. If a highly transmissible variant with a mortality rates like SARS or MERS evolves (both other coronavirus outbreaks) thinks will change dramatically again. Quite apart from the actual medical and pandemic risks, I think the impact of the pandemic on airlines, cruise lines, hotels and other travel/tourism related businesses is going to have ripples for a very long time.

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#2777919 14-Sep-2021 00:01

Lias:

I can't see international travel going back to how it was pre pandemic for a very very long, if ever. We've already seen how different Delta is with it's increased transmissibility and mortality. If a highly transmissible variant with a mortality rates like SARS or MERS evolves (both other coronavirus outbreaks) thinks will change dramatically again. Quite apart from the actual medical and pandemic risks, I think the impact of the pandemic on airlines, cruise lines, hotels and other travel/tourism related businesses is going to have ripples for a very long time.

My 2 cents.

Except it is quite largely back to normal in large parts of the world e.g. Europe and the US - cruise ship have been sailing for months. I few tests and proof of vaccines is all thats required.

The world went back to normal after the 1918 flu epidemic - which killed an awful lot more people - and didn't have a vaccine

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