Will overseas travel (to Europe as an example) be allowed by July 2022?

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#289339 31-Aug-2021 09:15

Is it unrealistic to believe that things will be back to (sort of) normal, where you can travel freely between countries and return to NZ without isolating for 2 weeks?

I've found some pretty good flight deals to Europe next July and really keen to get home to see the family.

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#2769132 31-Aug-2021 09:24

Far out no one on Geekzone could answer this question

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#2769136 31-Aug-2021 09:27

I don't expect a straight answer, but what people think is realistic.

I read that 80% will be fully vaccinated by November.

In theory we should open up, right? I mean, another summer with no tourists in NZ is obviously devastating for the NZ economy.

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#2769138 31-Aug-2021 09:29

It's up to you to make that call as it is your financial risk and can only be based on your circumstances, financial state, work flexibility etc

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#2769142 31-Aug-2021 09:36

As the Manager of Roaming at Spark I'm not expecting anything so I won't be disappointed, but if anyone has a crystal ball that they can share that would be awesome!

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#2769145 31-Aug-2021 09:41

Make sure what you book allows for flexibility to change dates without change fees etc.

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#2769146 31-Aug-2021 09:41

Was also planning a trip last June but obviously cancelled plans for that, my parents are getting proper old now. I think is pretty likely, Europe is opened up a lot now and lots of pressure to not go back to lockdowns anything like before. Some decent prices on Qatar airways for example at the moment, I'm guessing that the prices won't be going up for those to the point where need to book 10 months in advance, thinking that capacity will be increasing as the other airlines bring routes back out of hibernation if situation carries on generally improving. Lots of additional cost at the moment getting pre-departure tests, arrival tests, differing transfer requirements which I don't think will be going away by then, the big one for me would be MIQ back in NZ, if is self isolation that would be fine.

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#2769147 31-Aug-2021 09:42

My best guess would be yes. Or that we'll know by Xmas... by then the vaccination will be about as complete as its going to be. But it would depend entirely on whether a new, more infectious, vaccination-resistant covid strain breaks out, and how well covid is controlled in the country you would be returning from.

There's little risk if you book via AirNZ -- they allow you to cancel/transfer your booking for free, although you get credit, not a refund.

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#2769153 31-Aug-2021 09:46

frankv:

My best guess would be yes. Or that we'll know by Xmas... by then the vaccination will be about as complete as its going to be. But it would depend entirely on whether a new, more infectious, vaccination-resistant covid strain breaks out, and how well covid is controlled in the country you would be returning from.

There's little risk if you book via AirNZ -- they allow you to cancel/transfer your booking for free, although you get credit, not a refund.

Thanks. Issue is that Air NZ is nearly twice the price of the one I've looked at.

I'll look into travel insurance and what it covers, if I can talk wifey in to booking the trip.

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#2769160 31-Aug-2021 09:53

In late 2020 I was hoping to be able to travel to Australia in 2021, but decided to hold off making plans until the level of risk became clearer. We all know how that turned out.

My gut feeling is that the same scenario is likely to apply to anyone currently planning to travel further abroad in 2022.

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#2769166 31-Aug-2021 09:56

realistically -

going to Europe - depends if you have the correct vaccine passport for a particular country. you could probably go right now, today. sports is happening all over the world, so travel is possible even today.

returning from Europe - depends if NZ allows quarantine free return at that time. that nobody knows at this stage, people are not allowed into the country at the moment - when that will change nobody knows, but i'd say possible and quite realistic.

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#2769227 31-Aug-2021 10:40

This time last year I thought things may be moving by now. But then the D variant came out of India and ‘Changed the Game’ as it were.

There is probably a reason the tickets are cheap, don’t you think? And I think you will struggle to get insurance cover for something that is foreseeable.

We have moved our Europe trip planning to March 2023 (originally scheduled September 2020).

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#2769229 31-Aug-2021 10:44

Personally I'd hope international travel would be possible by then. But I'd not buy any tickets that couldn't be transferred for free to another later date. There are just so many variables right now it's hard to know exactly what will happen by then.

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#2769230 31-Aug-2021 10:48

You can go anywhere you want, just don't rely on getting back into NZ easily / at all. By then there's probably a chance the border is more open, but whether that's managed isolation, home isolation, or no isolation is probably impossible to predict.

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#2769240 31-Aug-2021 11:00

(Looks in Crystal ball)
If you guys think Delta is bad, wait until you get a load of the Omega variant.

My point being also consider that Coronavirus might mutate again into something that is even more virulent than currently.

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