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  #3252004 22-Jun-2024 20:21
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Eva888:

 

Seems it’s being refloated at 9am high tide.

 

 

That attempt was abandoned - now trying at 9 pm.





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  #3252005 22-Jun-2024 20:41
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Has anyone found a livestream of the refloat attempt?


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  #3252006 22-Jun-2024 20:47
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k1w1k1d:

 

With the big ferries being cancelled, are they now looking at similar sized vessels to the current ones?

 

 

Right now there are no ferries of any size being looked at.





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  #3252007 22-Jun-2024 20:56
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According to NZ Herald, KiwiRail claim that:

 

“… a comprehensive maintenance programme of the ship was carried out two weeks ago. That included replacing the steering system.

 

We brought in experts from overseas ….” 

 

If that’s true then you’d expect that the replacement of the steering system - the system that allegedly failed - would be covered by warranty.

 

It will be interesting to see how this pans out and what will be found by the inevitable formal enquiry.





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  #3252014 22-Jun-2024 21:15
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Keeping an eye on this, looks like the boat is moving https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:174.024/centery:-41.265/zoom:17

 

 


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  #3252015 22-Jun-2024 21:15
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DjShadow:

 

Has anyone found a livestream of the refloat attempt?

 

Stuff are doing a blow by blow live description, but no video.


 
 
 

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  #3252037 23-Jun-2024 09:09
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eracode:

 

K8Toledo:

 

Anyone else booked on the Aratere in 2016 when sailings were cancelled due to a propeller shaft sunk to the bottom of the strait?

 

 

That was a propeller  - bit hard for a shaft to sink because it’s almost wholly inside the hull - unless the whole ship goes down - which is currently not beyond the realms of possibility.

 

 

@eracode

 

It was a section of the propeller shaft with the propeller attached - as per your own link.  The shaft is not entirely inside the hull, see the rear of any modern ship design.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3252038 23-Jun-2024 09:38
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@K8Toledo Fair point - my apologies - I stand corrected.





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  #3252040 23-Jun-2024 09:46
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The section of tail shaft was probably just the very end fitted in the propeller.  The prop was found lying flat on sea floor and there is no mention by Seaworks who recovered it that they had to cut the shaft. None of the recovery photos show anything sticking out of the propeller boss. 


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  #3252042 23-Jun-2024 09:58
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Bung:

 

The section of tail shaft was probably just the very end fitted in the propeller.  The prop was found lying flat on sea floor and there is no mention by Seaworks who recovered it that they had to cut the shaft. None of the recovery photos show anything sticking out of the propeller boss. 

 

 

Thanks. IANA engineer but it does seem unlikely that a prop shaft would break and separate mid-shaft.





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  #3252045 23-Jun-2024 10:25
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I believe the propeller is fitted over the end of the shaft. The shaft then snapped off flush where it entered the propeller, leaving most of the shaft attached to the ship and a metre or two inside the prop.

It's been stated previously that there are only 22 somewhat-suitable ships in existence, no-one of which are for sale, and this was known at the time the project was cancelled. I'm not sure whether that's looking at rail ferries or similar size ferries in general.

I'm not sure if there's a breakdown between the Picton vs Wellington costs.

My understanding is there have been medium-to-long-term goals to move away from both terminals; from Picton to Clifford Bay, and from Kaiwharawhara to preferably a joint facility with Bluebridge at Kings Wharf.

Neither of those plans got the government support needed to proceed.





 
 
 
 

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  #3252051 23-Jun-2024 10:39
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The Clifford Bay site would have been great for fast ferry. But was too shallow requiring cutting rock reefs. The sea bed is now approximately 1m higher post Kaikoura earthquake. No possible for larger Roll on roll off ships.




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  #3252055 23-Jun-2024 10:58
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  #3252058 23-Jun-2024 11:07
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I think it's too late to drop an anchor astern 😁

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  #3252059 23-Jun-2024 11:08
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Japan does have quite a few ferries, but I expect none available for a quick sale.
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2355.html

Looks like they need them all plus more.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Supply-Chain/Japan-aims-to-double-marine-rail-shipments-to-take-load-off-truckers2

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The government will craft a reform package that encourages wider use of ferries to transport cargo, as well as roll-on/roll-off vessels that can carry truck trailers. These RORO vessels give drivers time to rest while cruising on water.

 

The measures also will call for using container ships that can transfer containers between trucks, saving time on the road. Tokyo is considering providing support to companies that use these ships.
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